Live night 18 Part 1

More snippets stolen from the JJJAT and WHATM threads :) sadly without pictures!

8.11PM - Josie & John are in bed together. Josie is snuggled under the duvet, could hardly see her! 

8.47pm - HM's locked in bedroom. Sunshine been going on and on and onnnnnnnnnnn about her veganism. SUNSHINE : I went to a drive through and when I got to the second window the girl said that the guy at the first window wanted my phone number! So she pretended she had a boyfriend!

JOHN: (teases) Were your car windows tinted? 

He then jokes, if he was working in McDonalds and someone asked for a bun he would laugh and take the p*ss! :D

8.52pm - Fish and chip supper served and suspicious looking mushy peas. They talk about Eastenders and Sunshine makes a CRISP sarny!!

9.11pm - Josie goes back to bed. Hm's have apple pie for afters and realise Josie's special day has not been very special :(

9.26pm - Josie says she'll feel alright once she finishes her period. NATHAN: F*ck off period! (The shopping arrives) 

9.31 PM – Nathan comforts an upset Jose as she's feeling lost with Govan gone :-( 

(Copied from an article on Digital Spy) Josie and John James discussed long lost loves and relationships of yesterday. John James, whilst cosying up to Josie in bed, popped the question 'How long is it since you were last in a relationship?'.

'About a year and a half ago', Josie disclosed. As Josie opened up her heart to John James, he wondered whether the country lass was high maintenance. 'No I'm not', she replied, 'I've learnt my lesson'. 

After talking to John James about boyfriends past (and admitting that she was seeing two brothers, one after the other!) she told JJ that she's not looking for a fella - 'I don't get bored being on my own. If I want male company I'll see my male mates'. Is Josie telling John James that he is just a friend? 

Digging further, the Aussie blonde asked whether she wanted children. 'Not yet. About 30' she told him. 'You've not got long then!' piped John James. The Cheeky mere!

9,33pm -  Nathan virtually orgasmic about all the food, he can get back in the kitchen. All girls out at smokers bench. Josie eating the dessert saying whoever made it should get an award. 9.46pm - Josie groaning she has eaten too much pie.

9.51pm - John is paranoid about why Sunshine has taken Mario into the Diary Room.

JOHN: I think I'm out!

Ben says she is needy, Josie empathises that she probably feels a bit outcast over being vegan. Josie cant stand people who are picky with food when there are people starving. Josie telling John not to start on Sunshine as he plans to continually tease her. They are all drained and frustrated with Sunshine

10.13pm - Josie given her box of goodies. Josie has got a blonde wig in her goodie box from BB. Mario tries it on and Ben tells him he looks like Doris Day. Josie's basket seems full of stuff she wouldn't chose herself or rubbish Nathan is excited about her basil plant but it was an absolutely crap special day in comparison to Corin's!

10.18pm -  Sunshine sitting beside John smiling and said she wanted to give him a hug. She doesn't seem bullied to me.

10.22pm - Pool party John is really self conscious about having his top off! 10.40pm - Mario streaks :S

11.05pm - John and Josie in bathroom in towels, talking about a spot John has. Josie says she's been in a bad mood all day. John is surprised. 

SHABBY: It's been a bit of a weird day forJosie, I thought it's be a bit like yours she could have done with it.

11.27pm - Nathan in bed with Josie, she has her elbow up at his side. Her body language is so obvious sometimes.

11.33pm - John wrestles Sunshine. Josie jokes that she can see a wedding 'can I be a bridesmaid?' Sunshine is enthused about the idea 'yeah, we should have a BB wedding!' Josie asks how many there have been.

LMAO at Nathan: "look at you sunshine looking in the mirror while you're getting hit!" 

JOHN: Sunshine loves a mirror!

John jumped in next to Josie to get away from Sunshine's onslaught with a pillow!

11.37pm - Talking Wentworth Miller and prison break. Josie says she pulled a bloke who looked like Wentworth Miller recently and he was the biggest **** in Bristol!

12.01am - John gets under the covers at the bottom of Josie's bed. Nathan is in the bed too!

JOSIE: John, your feet are freezing!

JOHN: Yeah, thats why I've got them on you to warm up!

"Certainly looking comfortable and cosy at the moment, it also looks like JJ has moved a lot closer. These two are so natural together when nobody else is around them. I still maintain that they are still reluctant to really open their feelings for each other in case the other one rejects them! But things seem to be definitely moving on!" (Quote from poster on JJJAT)

LIVE NIGHT 18 -  

BB reminds HM's to wear mics at all times; Ben is the culprit! Dave pokes fun at him for flaunting the rules and cracks up laughing at 'Fozzie bear' as he lies against Dave's chest.  

JOHN: (Laughing) Showing a bit of leg there, ol' Benjy! Showing a bit of cheeky leg!(SC) (as Ben's robe exposes his upper thighs) 

SC as HM's singing and John is shoulder shuffling and head bopping his heart out on the couch! 

Nathan is chatting with Josie in the bedroom as she lays in bed in the darkened room.  

NATHAN: Are you going to sleep now, babes? 

She tells him she is so he gives her a kiss on the cheek and cuddle. Mario and Josie bid each other good night. 

The Addams family are dancing in the garden to the beat Shabby creates from using her chest as a tribal drum. It is like a silent disco! :D Shabby starts to bang against the hut as a tune is not forthcoming from BB. John says his good nights to the lads in the lounge; Dave seems surprised he is going to bed so early! (Is it really as he knows Josie is already in bed and is hoping for a chat and snuggle?) 

JOHN: I'll be up for a little bit. (He wishes Steve a good birthday for tomorrow) 

There is a rousing chorus of 'COME ON ENGLAND!!' several times by John, Steve etc before he makes his way into the bedroom. 

DAVE: It's been a good day today in the glory! It's been lovely! After a terrible day yesterday we've had a brilliant one today. :)

Steve wonders if they'll play 'No woman, no cry' for him in the morning as it is 1 of his favourite songs. 

Johnny James is sooooooooo predictable ;) When the camera cuts to the bedroom John is already wrapped up under the doona with Josie. 

JOHN: .. Angry or just a bit upset?  

JOSIE: Yeah, .. Inside.. I've managed to keep it in .. But some days like today it's.. At some points I felt like I was gonna explode .. I felt like I wanted to explode! (John chuckles) But I just kept it in.. That's why I've just come .. That's why I just go to bed .. Easier, innit?  

JOHN: (Soft and sweetly) You'll be alright. It's gonna take some adjusting, for sure.. 

JOSIE: It's not that .. I would .. I just would have loved to have shared this experience with Govan for a bit longer.  

JOHN: Yeah, I know .. (Josie says Govan was funny) But the whole house has changed..  

JOSIE: Yeah, it's more crap!! (She laughs)  

JOHN: There's a lot more personalities coming out, do you know what I mean? Cos like he was such a big personality that ..

JOSIE: Who's personality's come out?  

JOHN: Like .. I don't know.. Just people coming out with a bit of banter .. You reckon? People are starting to become a little more comfortable in the house. 

JOSIE: Like who? 

JOHN: Well .. Um, Davo and Benjy and that getting a little more comfortable. I think they didn't expect to sorta.. I'm not sure they expected to stay.. they get more comfortable, they get a bit louder! 

Scene switches to Steve, Corin + Dave at the sofas. Corin thinks BB will surely provide Steve with clippers to shave his head, so he'll be feeling good for his birthday! Steve might even put on a WHITE VEST!!!!! :D Dave imagines people saying that the BB boys beat the Germans.. I'm pretty sure IFE (A FEMALE!) scored the winning penalty, Davo! :P Steve can't wait for his kids to see that :) (ad break) 

Steve is stuffed to the hilt! Back to the bedroom where Josie and John are talking about BB10 and Noirin's bedhopping! 

JOSIE: ..all of 'em!  

JOHN: Who? Noirin? Noirin? No, she was only with Siavash!  

JOSIE: No, she was snogging all of 'em! (Noirin BB10) the one that looked like.. thought he was Wolverine.    

JOHN: Oh really?! 

JOSIE: Yeah, she snogged all of 'em!  

JOHN: She was well hot too!  (Nathan wolf whistles in the background)

JOSIE: Mm. (Thumb in mouth) yeah she was.  

JOHN: Kris was my favourite.  (He has some bad taste in guys!)

JOSIE: He was meant to be a w*nker, wasn't he? I didn't really watch it..  

JOHN: Yeah, he .. I think he was. But I didn't really see it. When he was in the show he was alright but.. it was when he came out that people started to dislike him .. so he must have done some things that people didn't approve of. (SC) 

Back to the lounge where Steve is admiring Corin's £1.50 Primarni love heart socks. Ben comes out to kiss her good night; the kisses continue with Corin laying some on Stevie and Dave. Then returns to JJJ after a minute or so where John is chuckling his cheeks out! 

JOSIE: So immature!  

JOHN: (Giggles as he points out Ben's pants hanging down like shorts) 

JOSIE: Yeah, I know and his winkie hanging out! He's got no shame! Imagine you walking round like that.  

JOHN: I saw Mario's and I was like oof (sharp intake of breath)  

JOSIE: Did you feel a bit inadequate when you see that?  

JOHN: Ah, not really with the wiener .. But with the balls.. I can't compete with that sh*t! The balls hang lower than his cod (laughs)  

JOSIE: You've had a proper good look, haven't you?  

JOHN: Yeah, I have when he done the nudey run, I'm gonna admit.. and I was hanging round for him to come back - I got a real good look! I got a REALLL good look, Mario! Mario? (Ben tells John he's asleep) Already?! I'm talking about his ball bag though! We're talking about his ball sac!  

BEN: I know. 

JOHN: (hisses hysterically) 'I know'? You didn't know that! (Sniggers) He waves! (Chortles harder as he imitates the wave and his ears) Night, night guys!' How funny was his ear sticking out of that hat?! (SC) 

JOSIE: With his massive head!  (John nearly knocks his head against the headboard of the bed throwing it back with laughter)

Corin exchanges 'good nights' with JJJ.  

JOHN: (Sing songs) Night night, Sunshine! (She mutters that she's not talking to him) WHAT?! You spoke to me like 2 seconds ago, when I walked in!  

SUNSHINE: I changed my mind. No, I am really! 

JOSIE: Come on, you love each other really!

JOHN: Nah.. Night Nate...(Nathan exchanges nocturnal niceties back to John and with Josie) Is there anyone else in here?  

Out in the garden, Caoimhe confirms to Shabby how madly in love she is with her boyfriend.  They dip their feet in the pool, as Caoimhe explains she thought she'd been in love before when she was with a guy for 18 months but she wasn't. Caoimhe chased Dave for 9 months and he's a really nice, funny guy. As she had her heart broken before (so she thought) with an Indie guy she found it hard to trust men again. She knew after 4 months of dating him, he wasn't the one as he p*ssed her off so much but didn't want to be alone.

John and Josie whispering in their favourite place:  

JOHN: .. Not all is lost..  

JOSIE: I don't get it!  

JOHN: You said that .. 'I go for ugly blokes' and that you go for..  

JOSIE: No, not ugly.. just not..  

JOHN: But all your friends said they are.. 

JOSIE: Some of them say.. It's weird, because some of em say 'oh, he's really really good looking!" And other ones go 'he's so ugly!'  

JOHN: Good friends (!) I wouldn't go out with you, just for that reason. All your friends would be homing in on me .. They'd be doing 'the Jose' (demos the 'Jose' by invading her personal space towards her face and staring, which makes Josie laugh) 'what's that? What's that?' (Pointing at her) have you got TWO freckles on your forehead?!  

JOSIE: Do you know, it's so weird that you say that to me, cos my friend Amy does it all the time .. I'm like 'what've I got on my face now?' But that's cos she's SO.. 

JOHN: Have you got a few freckles coming up 4 days later? (Still teasing)Yeah see! And when you really do, you're like ..  

JOSIE: It's only cos she's so good looking that I gotta .. Think her face can't be that pretty, there's gotta be something..  

JOHN: My friends do that to me .. Every time before we go out I think I'm looking alright, cos I don't really care.. I'm just like (motions speedily doing his hair) that and then they're like 'your hair's looking sh*t!' They just do it to wind me up, but I would never have thought about that .. I can imagine you'd be like that too. You're the sort of person that when, I'm getting ready to go out and you're already ready and sitting down .. And I come out of the bathroom you'd be like this (looks her up and down) you'd look me straight up and down.. I'd be like 'what, what's wrong with me?!'  

JOSIE: I always say when you have a bogey hanging out your nose..  

JOHN: (Through laughs) A boogie! A bogey hanging out! Yeah, that's fair enough. I feel.. It's good that you can do that because sometimes I don't know what to say for things like that..

JOSIE: What? .. What?  

JOHN: Well, like .. What do you say?  

JOSIE: What when you've got a bogey hanging out of your nose? John, you've got a BOOMER of a bogey sticking out of your nose?!  

JOHN: (Cackles) A boomer! You can't.. (laughs)  

JOSIE: Well, what else would you say then? (As her tactic is untactful)  

JOHN: (Demonstrates a discreet method) I'd just go like this.. (taps the end of his nose) 

JOSIE: That what you do to me, is it?  

JOHN: So if I do a signal like this (shows her again and laughs) ..  

JOSIE: Alright. I'll do that to you then.  

JOHN: (Mock offense) Oh!! Have I got em that often?  

JOSIE: Noo. (John laughs) I've seen one.  

JOHN: That was fluff, I said. 

JOSIE: It was a boomer, don't lie! 

JOHN: I seriously thought it was fluff but then I went back for the second check cos you told me it was still there! (Rubs his eyes giggling)  

JOSIE: When I used to do naughty things, obviously you get a .. (SC) I was at this house party (their heads are huddled close together) I was on it for about 3 days .. And I had this massive, I don't normally get bogies, but I had this MASSIVE boomer of a bogey, yeah? (John chuckles) and I had it on my finger and I was like OMG and there was like loads of people, so I was like 'what do I do with it?' Somebody was in the toilet, so I had it in my hand like that (John hanging on her every word) Chas came over and went 'Jose? What have you got in your hand?' (John throws his head back in laughter/hysterics) I went 'no, no, it's nothing, it's nothing' I think he thought I had like (SC - John smiling beautifully at her)  

Loooooooove that they could have an entire conversation about bogies and find it so amusing! So THEM :D I also think this could have been when Josie confided to John (in the SC's) that when she had gone off the rails she had taken drugs in her past.

Camera cuts back to Caoimbhe and Shabs in the garden. Caoimhe doesn't want Shabby to feel uncomfortable around her, which she doesn't. Shabby hopes that she will just look sensitive which is different to her real life as she can be a prick to her girls. Shabby considers this experience might be a lesson for her although it doesn't feel very nice. She's all about the chase which is why she normally goes for straight girls. The problem is that once she gets them she's like 'whatevs.' She doesn't want to be like that as she has f*cked up some very good things - potentially. 'If they should have worked, they would have worked and I wouldn't have done that!' 

I wonder if in retrospect, John and Josie ever feel that they f*cked up a relationship that had the potential to be SO good.. especially considering that they wanted to spend the rest of their lives together.. and now aren't! Lots of people have Shabby's outlook on their relationship that it WOULD have worked if they were supposed to be together.. I disagree, because the amount of people that became involved in meddling and pouring poison in each other's ears.. what chance did they really have to overcome those hurdles? 

CAOIMHE: If you are really, really, really into someone you don't screw them around. You don't! You stay.. you feel it's right and you don't want to hurt them - that's the last thing you want them to feel is hurt! 

Now I'm not saying that John and Josie screwed each other around in their relationship (perhaps afterwards with their head games etc.) but it could have FELT like that was happening! I know for certainty they NEVER would have wanted to hurt each other when they were together.. but could have believed ALL they were doing was hurting that person they loved with every bit of their heart! John could never stand to see Josie hurting - because of him, so it wasn't surprising that he left.. what WAS unusual this time, was that he didn't come back.. for her. 

When things became more public and more and more acrimonious - each of them were just hurling hurtful words and actions at one another :( I don't think it meant that they had STOPPED loving one another that they HURT each other.. but the total opposite .. because they had such deep, all-consuming love and were being so devastated but that person, that devastation wrecked with their heads and caused them to lash out in ways none of us expected :( 

Caoimhe recounts a cringey experience to Shabby about how she'd gone to all this effort to impress some bloke, only for him to blow her off. But she couldn't let go because 'what you can't have, you want more!' Ife and Mario cuddle in bed thinking it rocks that they both like men :D Back to Caoimhe gushing about how badly it is being so madly in love. But she won't deny that her and Shabby have found a connection. Shabby calls Caoimhe her lesson as she has done a million times to girls what Dave did to Caoimhe before they fell in love. But she's not stupid enough to feel it is an okay or acceptable thing to do.. but until she heard someone say they've had it done to them and it hurts..

Caoimhe calls the pain horrible, being that into someone and having to just wait and play it cool. She read the book 'The rules' she was that into him and didn't ring him. Shabby says it sounds creepy that Caoimhe had waited patiently for him to call her. Dave was supposedly thankful that she had 'stalked' him!

CAOIMHE: Love is such a painful thing - it's like a poison! And it goes through your body and it like.. It f**ks you up.. F**KS you up! It f**ks with your mind.. You can't eat, you can't sleep!

Caoimhe was convinced she was going to fail her degree because she could not concentrate (over how much she genuinely liked him) Shabby feels this is the first genuine conversation they've had since they got here.. and want to share more but it is untouchable in that environment. They plan to have a roll up then swap life stories 'f**k anyone who's listening!'  (ad break)

John and Josie are still gabbing away tucked up in bed:  

JOHN: .. Ran past the stage! Davina had to tell me to go back to have photos taken cos I just ran past the paparazzi! (Josie sucks her thumb) oh no, it wasn't Davina - it was the little lady who was trying to put the mic on my pocket! She was like 'go back, go back' 

JOSIE: All I could think to do was (cheesy smile and thumbs up)  

JOHN: I think I might have done that too, so it's alright.. Um..so there was that and then um .. So.. You did the running man, jumping around and at the top of the stairs you humped the air.. And I'm like 'WHOA!' if I get thrown in with her, you're gonna kill me (his initial impressions when Josie was selected)  

JOSIE: Yeah, but I didn't know what I was doing .. I was so excited!  

JOHN: So yeah, that's what it was .. I thought she's got a personality that f**kin' out there! I always thought I was gonna struggle with that.. people that were just gonna have massive personalities that I wasn't gonna compare with, do you know what I mean?.. cos I'm not really that loud but .. Ah, it depends .. yeah, I guess I am, but.. 

JOSIE: You're one of the biggest personalities in here. (John didn't hear 'I'm one of the what?' so she has to repeat herself)  

JOHN: Yeah, I think I do.. But in different areas.. I'm, I'm not .. Attention seeking personality! (Points towards someones bed.. presuming it is Sunshine) has got a BIG attention seeking personality, but I didn't wanna keep going on about it. I'm not like that in real life so I didn't want to be like that in here .. so I was actually thinking 'was I the right sort of person to be on a show like this?' because I thought that they would be looking for people that were like that and I thought if that's what you've gotta be like to be on a show like this then maybe.. 

JOSIE: Swap sides a minute cos Nathan.. (Josie gets out of bed in order to switch so John sits up) 

Camera change to Shabby having a stomp and Caoimhe rolling a ciggy! Back to the bedroom where John and Josie have played musical bed sides!  

JOHN: Which is why .. I was half preparing that this could be nothin' at the start..  he pretty much told me to f**k off!

JOSIE: Did he?  

JOHN: Yeah, pretty much. It's hard to..  

JOSIE: That's cos he had me then ..  

JOHN: I never thought I'd be friends with anyone.. If it had been the outside world, I'd have just been a loner and been quite happy with it.. But because I thought well .. I wanna be friends with ya, I sorta um.. went to him..  

JOSIE: Hm, you and Govan..  

Back to the girlies in the garden. Caoimhe loves Shabby's first name 'I think it's absolutely beautiful!' and the double barrelled part of it makes it even better. Shabby defines her name as 'beautiful warrior' and Caoimhe can't believe it as her name means  'Beautiful, soft, warrior princess' Caoimhe's full name is: Caoimhe Katie Bernadette Guilfoyle .. we then get a brief glimpse of JJJ!!! Such teasing swines the camera crew were :P John moved so close to Josie's face it looks like he could kiss her :)

Caoimhe remembers being such a deep child and thinking allllll the time! While she was out for a treat as an 8 year old she was constantly worrying about her school report. She was such a loner but had friends by the age of 12. She was such a great friend that Caoimhe can't even remember her name! She had an invisible friend when she was younger and only got rid of Wo Wo her lamb cuddly toy last year (used to sleep with it) She used to worry her teeth would fall out 'I was so f**king weird!' but when she got into dancing it helped her confidence. 

Every morning at secondary school she cried as she hated it so much. She had to see a counselor as she cried in class and never wanted to go in. She threw herself into her studies and studied all the time straight after school! Her mother had to stop her, she danced every night of the week. Caoimhe's Mum made her get her massive, bushy eyebrows done when she was 14/15. The girls in the school she was in were really 'bimbo-y' and she didn't want to be like them so wore weird clothes; she even sat in the toilets to eat her sandwiches sometimes. Leaving school, she had about 3 or 4 close friends and they were all arty farty geeks who studied and didn't look after their appearance. 

School was 6 years of hell for Caoimhe and she was a freak! She started college and had so much fun going out on the p*ss all the time. Then went to Spain were she really found herself, she came back a new person. She is now so close with her mother, who couldn't believe the change in her daughter (as she'd become a confident, independent woman) She attributes her past to making her so much stronger as a person.

Dave is sleeping in the nest. SC as Caoimhe describes part of her family upbringing as f**king the whole family up! JJJ stiiiill in bed but we only get to see them for 2 seconds again .. As BB interrupts a sleeping Davo in the nest #intheglory! He makes out he certainly wasn't asleep but in a trance. But he will be going to bed soon just to alleviate their fears! 

Shabby and Caoimhe make up with Dave (they hadn't realised he had been asleep in the nest while they chatted at the smoker's bench) who is buzzing after having so much food (after not having any for so long!) They apologise for not taking Govan's eviction well (as shown on HL's) Caoimhe is sorry she'd been snapping at everyone but hunger drives them to that! 

Dave explains that they were elated to stay and he hadn't connected with Govan so much. Dave apologises for not being more gracious about it but hadn't meant to rub anyone's nose in it!.. Shabby thinks he doesn't need to explain but she hadn't expected to be that gutted. She was trying so hard not to cry in those 10 seconds they had to hug him goodbye .. as she didn't want his last image of his friend to be crying. But the terrible booing Govan received shocked her as he didn't deserve it! 'What has he really done?' She thinks he spoke his mind and damn right he should have done! She respects him for sticking by what he thought.

Dave thought he was a cool, fun guy and one of the most entertaining in there. He doesn't know exactly why the public voted him out but considers it could be due to him being involved in a 'Couple of skirmishes.. and they thought he shouldn't have been!'  

DAVE: We only see a little fraction of what goes on in here! (just as JJJ supporters, John supporters and Josie supporters only saw the smallest fraction of what really went on in their relationship outside BB.. so who are we to judge what we do not KNOW??)

He'd been totally shocked and oblivious to the coding that she and Govan had done 'but the public sees things like that.' He thinks that sometimes the public make their judgments on incidents they've seen that and don't see that he's keeping the house buzzing. Shabby isn't concerned that the whole coding thing itself would have looked that bad but after the announcement from BB it could have been portrayed differently.  

Dave comments that '1 little thing may have all of a sudden put him in a bad light' but they know he was a fun, nice guy who was totally himself. Shabby agrees that he 'wore his heart on his sleeve massively' like her. She feels BB put in some HM's to mirror them (Govan was her mirror) 'and some to antagonise them.' 

SHABBY: One minute we'll hate your guts and the next, we'll like ..love you again! (Same could be said to describe John and Josie's relationship!)

Caoimhe feels bad that she snapped at Dave the other morning too because he'd been speaking about his bowel movements! Dave had struggled to crimp one out because of the chick peas they'd been eating! Shabby wants to keep having the kind of days they've had today where they've all gotten along. They think they all really bonded after the penalty shoot out but Shabby is slightly more realistic than to expect that will happen all the time. She guesses so long as they understand that they will blow their tops at one another and despise each other one minute.. and love each other the next - it'll be alright. That's something Shabby felt she needs to get to grips with, Dave can't handle the ongoing stuff 'day after day after day.'

Maybe this is something that John and Josie just couldn't get to grips with.. that they would have moments where they would DESPISE things the other did/said and then an hour or so later they'd be more in love than ever! I think they should have anticipated that they would have a lot of rows and be blowing their tops at one another.. as they did in the house. Did they think that would suddenly and miraculously change now they were an official couple? 

If they only could have realised, most married couples encounter the exact same emotional highs and lows in their relationship.. and that eventually if they just calmly talked it over, the rough would soon be smooth again :( But like Dave, if it just became routine and cycle of arguments day after day after day after day.. seemingly without end.. or without any hours of happiness.. how could they continue that way? What would be the indicator that things would change or it would get better? John especially has spoken out about how he couldn't deal with these ongoing rows.. it just exhausted them both physically and emotionally :( 

Shabs is really glad BB hadn't let her in the Diary room earlier as she'd wanted to have a bitch .. because she would have sat in the seat and said things that she'd have really regretted saying right now. She swears down that the HM's should never go to the Diary room hungry or if you're in a rage because it all comes out .. and then you wish you could go back in and take it all back. Caoimhe's had various moments like that where she wished she could go back in and redeem herself. 

I wonder if John and Josie regret comments they have made publically on TV, in magazines and on twitter - where they have spoken out in anger or from being brutally heartbroken. Maybe they wish they could take remarks back that were exchanged in rage.. deletions of tweets (both have done this) suggests that they have regretted some.. Is John now coming home in order to 'redeem' himself? 

Dave's ecstasy wasn't that Govan was gone but was the bliss of still being there with his mates. Shabby hopes if the situation arises again she can deal with it differently as it wasn't fair to dampen their elation! Ben had been glowing up until a few hours ago as he'd been convinced he was going and that the public hated him. Dave has never known anything like the massive lows and highs that the house give them. If Shabby could go back in time to make the choice to come in - she still would despite their lows.

SHABBY: Even if you leave those doors to massive boos, if you can take away something from here then that's it, isn't it?

Dave confides that sometimes he isolates himself when he's missing his family. Two or three nights again he'd had some dreams about his wife going through something and normally he's there to support her. Even when he's away and on the road he's always phoning his wife. Seeing his wife struggling in the dreams made him really pine for his family. He doesn't want them to take anything personally if he seems a little distant but Donna and their 4 kids are his life. 

It is the most difficult thing for him to do being away from his family. It usually takes him 4 days to adjust when he's away but this transition has been so difficult for him. He requests their love and encouragement if they see him like that. Caoimhe also pines a lot but tries to keep herself as busy as possible and laugh around (ad break)

SHABBY: This place is nuts!

Dave has never been anywhere like it and he has been in hardcore Islamic territory where he's been one of the only Europeans in their nation. They've been in situations where bullets have been flying past the car and yet he has never experienced the intensity that he has in BB!  He's been leading meetings to 5/600 people in Yemen, Qatar, Indonesia in the Wild West of the Islamic world but it doesn't even compare. been to Yemen, Qatar etc.. He has lead meetings there to 5/600 people. Their teams have newspapers come in an documentaries have also been filmed about them. He's met lots of people with massive personalities but the characters don't even come close to the big characters in here. Caoimhe claims even the quiet ones are coming out now!

Nathan comes out grouchily to the garden and moans about the whisper, whisper, whispering so he can't concentrate on sleeping! (JOHN AND JOSIE!!) Dave and Shabby think they really like each other now :) He knows now he just needs to give Shabby time for her to come back round.

SHABBY: We could be reasonably detestable characters to some people!

She thinks the public must have felt strongly against the people who were evicted. But adds that every person in there will have a bunch of people who totally get them and are behind them.. but 'as well as that we're gonna have a bunch of people who for whatever reason, just f**king despise you! Whether it be.. It could be the way you live your life, it could be the way you talk, it could be the words you use, it could be the way you dress! Like ANYTHING!' Josie and John definitely have this sort of supporter and those who despise them and find everything about them detestable :(

Shabby and Dave hug before he goes to get some milk to settle down before sleep. (Does milk have a settling, soothing effect? Is this why Johnny pants likes it?) They are both glad to have had their chat together :) Shabby cleans out the tobacco dust from her pocket, then leaves to have a wee and continue switching life stories with Caoimhe.. with certain things omitted! Nathan and Shabby go back into the house. Shabby suggests hanging out in the bathroom to Keevs as it is nice and maybe they won't smoke so much then!