Live Day 23 part 2 taken entirely from WHATM and JJJAT

From WHATM and JJJAT - 
 
"I agree he only really opens up with Josie, they work so well together both able to pick the other one's mood up and normally just by saying something silly or a little cuddle. Every time John comes out of his shell with the others something happens and he retreats further into it. Josie has come to realise just how hurt he has been in his normal life and how difficult he is finding it the house to trust people. So she should be very honoured and know that she means a lot to him to be able to be so open with her. She will have a friend for life if nothing else." (Melhock JJJAT)

2.54pm, Josie signs 'I love you' to John and tells him not to keep her hanging. John awwww's.  John & Jose doing some sort of dancing in the kitchen.

Josie to John "You've got as much beat as a sandwich."

"It's cute little interactions like that which just confirm to me even more that Josie doesn't really think of John as a "little brother" and that she just uses that as a cover up when talking to other housemate about him. I've never known someone to act like that and flirt like they do with someone who they think of as a "little brother." Look at the way Josie was with Govan who she really did see as a little brother and compare it to how she is with John...the banter, flirting, playfighting...there is such a difference in terms of affection there.

Also she was obviously comfortable sharing a bed with Govan as there were no feelings involved. Now if she felt like John was like a brother to her then I'm sure she'd have no problems inviting him to sleep in her bed, just like she did with Govan. I think the fact there are feelings attatched to her friendship with John is the reason she hasn't straight away invited him to sleep in her bed. I also think that is the same reason John hasn't wanted to push the idea of sleeping in Josie's bed just yet." (Off_the_hook13 JJJAT)

3.06pm, JOHN: I am going to be in this costume for MORE THAN 3 HOURS! 

(John just realises the definition of endurance - the task he's enlisted himself for)

3.22pm, Josie blows up her inflatable breasts and Caoimhe worries that she looks like a bloke! John pacing the kitchen floor 'This is getting hot already' Corin covets Josie's chest!

3.39pm, Chickens called to the chicken coop to start their task. John now wants to read the rules. Ben's excited they now have a mangle. John reads the rules and says those immortal worlds "yes, that's pretty easy!"

3.54pm, CORIN (to Dave & John) : Why don't you make up a chicken dance n stuff? 

John's calling one of the chicken's Rachael (the other is later named Govan)! Mario waves his axe above the chicken coop. Josie loves chicks. Josie said one of her chickens had a heart attack and all she saw were these legs bobbing out the top of the water trough. Josie's family had a dog that died of depression...(her auntie's dog)

4.07pm, 15 mins in and John "I'm gettin' angry now" making fun of himself. John and Dave trying to work out whether they have to pass three of five to succeed. Dave thinks they need to pass them all.

4.38pm, the HM's have to laugh in the lounge in an attempt to break a World Record. Ife thinks they can do it. They have a monitor showing how long they last.   

Mario - "Ha. Ha ha. Haa. Ha."

Corin - "Hee hee hee. Hee."

Mario - "Haa. Haa. Ha. Ha..."

Steve - "ROFL"

4.40pm,

JOHN: Why?

JOSIE: Why what John James?

JOHN: Dunno.

Ben squeezes Josie's boobs. Mario seems to be laughing to the tune of The Magic Roundabout. John thinks laughing would be a hard task.

4.46pm, then they started talking about John in a football kit again and Josie says "yeah but its not just you look different, you're a different person John, you laugh and don't go on and on all the time. isn't that weird?" he said "not really."

" I don't worry when they argue and even think it's good for them, because they ultimately end up closer and with a better understanding of one another afterwards. For every insecurity John has, Josie has one too..she's just better at covering them up. Trust is definitely a keyword here. John has problems trusting anyone so when he does and he feels someone doesn't trust him in return it's a big deal so he fronts up to people. Josie doesn't like confrontation and doesn't trust that it won't always escalate into something bigger so she stays away from people when she feels this could be happening. What is clear is that no matter what, and whatever is said in the heat of the moment, the friendship is important enough for them to work things out. John doesn't react the same way to arguments with Josie the way he does with everyone else. More than anything I think he just wants her to understand him. What we've seen both times is that Josie thinks it through and does eventually tell him that she understands him better now. They're learning." (theirishgirl)

4.53pm, Talking about bullying at school. John not bullied cos he was good at sport, Ben says he wasn't good at sport but he wasn't bullied. John says 'you weren't at my school'; All the Australians money goes to sport apparently.  John calls Australians arrogant - particularly the sports teams. Ben says sexual harassment will feature on her HL's. John says it will get shown. Sunshine says 'maybe not today.'

5.06pm, 32 mins in on the laughter task and the attempts are very half-hearted now. Ife and Nathan look as though they're asleep!  Steve is continuing for the 3 hours even though the rest of them have given up, he's delirious and starting to sound like The Joker.

5.07pm, Josie and her sleep talking troubles. 

JOHN: What yelling out other guys names like 'The Rock'? (lol)

Josie telling Ben she works all over the country for her job. She's 'nationwide'. John said in his first week as well that he loved England and if he had a reason to move here and stay he would.

5.27pm, Steve cops a feel of the Dumb Blonde's breasts!

5.58pm, Josie makes kissing sounds to a chicken not John and John wants to know the time cos they want a break. Josie thinks the people working in Disney world work hard cos they have to stay in their outfits all day.

6.01pm, Love the way Josie just said how they had chickens in the first year and so if you're feeling lonely 'you'd always know you had a chicken to cuddle.'

"They should tie SS to a giant catapult and fire her over the roof tomorrow.... that would take care of a second eviction. Her pathetic bunny boiler behaviour last night caused this grief for John. I can't stand the sight of her." (Conchie)

6.22pm, Caoimhe confides to Ben that she doesn't think she can cope with Shabby liking her.  Ben says we are quite similar, we both flirt with both sexes sometimes people draw conclusions sometimes right and sometimes wrong.

6.38pm, Crowd noise plays into garden as something nice was shouted over the wall about Dave. John looks like he's lost the will to live! Shabby paranoid that an eviction will be sprung on them as she doesn't want to be evicted in the costume - she'd rather leave in her bra and boxer shorts! HM's told by BB to remove sunglasses inside the house.  Josie says that she thought the house would be like a holiday camp and then some random sports star names, Sally Gunnel and someone else..

7pm, John asks Josie to go to the DR and ask for some paracetamols for him - Ben doesn't think they will give them to Josie so John asks Josie to ask what he should do as he has a headache. "omg help me" bemoans Ife If she 'd known all the lights in the House were going to be UV she would have got a note from her optician (to let her wear sunnies constantly) Dave resurrects Vagina gate asking Sunshine whether they are still under the impression it was a full exposure or partial exposure last night. John asks Sunshine if she has anything for the carpet burns.

7.16pm, Two chickens cross the road....John and Dave tell two jokes...

JOHN: (tells the chickens) I really, really hate you! 

JOSIE: John James, stop getting so eggy!

BEN: I think chickens are really ugly creatures. I don't see the beauty in a chicken.

JOHN: You love beauty, don't you Benny?

JOSIE: So do you, John!

Josie just asked who Shirley Bassey is. Ben tells her then goes on about how wonderful she is. LOL at Ben listing animals he thinks are beautiful- cats, dogs, ducks, horses... even donkeys are beautiful!

7.22pm, John keeps looking at her false boobs but says her real ones are just as good. She said you haven't seen them. He said 'yes I have when they fell out!', she said 'you didn't tell me', and then it cut away

"She just can't stay away from him, can she? And the best bit is, if she was a chicken you know he'd be right by her side all day as well." (shelleyj89) 

7.29pm, Ben and John getting arsey, Saying John has been trying to get in BB his whole life then changes it to 10 years. Uses the fact that he once tried to get into BB Oz. Ben to John: Don't judge me on my humour.

Thinks a lot of the angst was caused by John. Ben likes John but thinks John deliberately winds him up to get attention- 'It's true isn't he Josie?' .Josie agrees. Ben tells John he needs a psychiatrist.

JOHN: You're not a psychiatrist!

BEN: Nor are you.

Loving John having to stop the argument because of the joke telling! LMAO then argues in between accusing Ben of being judgemental.

Ben to John...'You like slapstick, and if you don't know what that is, Mario will explain it to you' 

SUNSHINE (to John) : Is this you when you're watching what you say? What are you like when you're not?

7.40pm, 'You wouldn't be friends on the outside with Josie' John says he would probably only been friends with Govan outside BB, Josie walks off. HURTFUL! :( 

BEN: "I have never met anyone as attention seeking as you"

JOHN: "I'm not attention seeking. How am I attention seeking?"

BEN: "You argue all the time"

JOHN: "That's argumentative, Mr Dictionary"

BEN: I don't consider myself close with Josie because she spends so much time in that bloody bed of hers! (NOT WHAT HE TELLS HER! Being brutal now)

7.48pm, Ben says that he (John) is supposed to be one of his close friends but he never leaves him alone; calls him spiteful. Sunshine telling Ben that John has always stood up for her and protected her, now he has thrown the jewellery that she gave him under her bed and she's upset. Ben to Sunshine 'With him what's naughty, he thinks himself as Mr popularity, it was up to me and Mario and Dave to bring him in.....'

Sunshine knew that when Govan left John and Josie would get really close, she says to Ben. Ben says that when they first came into the house John was an outsider and it was him and Mario and Dave who brought him into the mainstream. Sunshine says she doesn't recall that. Sunshine now using Ben to mop up her unhappiness. This is the person who has (according to her) humiliated her and ruined her reputation by all of his insensitive comments to her. Ben thinks it looks pathetic that he's five years older than John but can't stand up to him, but Sunshine says he doesn't because he's always got a comeback. Ben wants to talk to Caoimhe but not Shabby. He calls John stupid and Keevil agrees.

CAOIMHE: I know he's manipulative, he's got really low self esteem and is very paranoid.

SUNSHINE: The thing is with John you don't know how he's going to react..I threw a cushion at him, he threw a cushion at me..I threw some water on him, and then I get dragged across the floor!

8.03pm, Mario tells Ben to ignore him. 

BEN: But then you look petty with someone who's supposed to be your friend (he's not thought that through!)

Shabby arrives and convo halts.  Dave asks John would he be interested in doing modelling after. John said it depends what it is and how long for, it would depend on what his mum wants to do...

"I think he started the argument to draw Josie's attention away from Ben in much the same way as the other day he did it physically by in effect ejecting Ben from Josie's bed by rough housing with Josie until Ben left. Earlier he drew her attention away by asking her to get up and go and get him a headache tablet from the diary room even though he knows that they will only give it out to the person concerned.

He's been displaying lots of dominant body language towards Josie by sitting above her after arguments or throwing her down on the bed and getting on top of her. It's the same thing. Power and possession of the alpha female of the group and in their case also to do with the bond they have formed. If he's not careful though he'll push her too far away from himself in an attempt to push her away from the competition i.e. Nathan and Ben, that's the danger." (Aella JJJAT)

8.15pm, Josie discusses inverted nipples, feels like her boobs are inadequate.  John is getting wound up by Sunshine now walking around the coop in circles;  John asks her if she has to do that, she ignores him.

8.20pm, Ben has now cornered Jose,  she thinks that the environment in the house is making John nutty and she enjoys a good argument with him. 

BEN: I normally enjoy a good argument but you can't argue with him as soon as you get a good attack weapon he blows up. 

Josie's explaining that John feels his mind is constantly playing tricks on him. 

JOSIE: He says he's not like this in the outside, it's really affecting him.

Ben says that if you 'attack' John in a jokey argument WW3 breaks out 'cos he can't take it!'

8.24pm, DAVE (to John): I like her but when she starts involving other HM's because all I've done is repeat what she's said about then well its you know ... eating discussion... I don't think she's a couple of sandwiches short, she's a young girl and she fancies you.

Josie wants the tiniest dinner ever.

8.29pm, Sunshine telling John she's still waiting for him to be ready to talk - could he let he know when he is. She knows it takes him a while to think about things. He asks her why did she exaggerate the story. There are things she regrets saying. Sadly John being cooped up (see what I did there) has been to his detriment because whomever is free to stand by the coop and poke!

SUNSHINE: In what was do you think I exaggerated the story? 

JOHN: (trapped in the conversation as he can't get away) You tell me.

John thinks this has now happened on 4 or 5 instances. Sunshine likes when they joke around and have pillow fights but won't sit there and argue as it's probably her last day. 

JOHN: Stop going on about your last day, I couldn't give a f**k about your last day! I couldn't give a sh*t about that. At the end of the day it's a TV programme, if you leave you leave.  

8.36pm, Nathan's cooking is very greasy looking and his hygiene lax (MASH AND GRAVY) Ben refers to John as 'an argumentative toad' yet John is being provoked.

8.47pm, John has said he doesn't want to talk she is going at him and he cannot go anywhere. Why can she not just leave him alone. "I want to be John's friend but he doesn't want to be mine" Dave says maybe John will feel differently tomorrow. 

SHABBY: Dave, on a scale of one to ten, how bored are you right now?

DAVE: 10.

Argument spliced with chicken jokes.

8.52pm, This is a very bizarre conversation with John interrupting his diatribe to ask Dave 'why did the chewing gum cross the road?' (because it was stuck to the chicken) and then continuing to tell Sunshine he wont apologise for taking her to the pool, and doesn't care if she is angry - he doesn't want to look like a person who dragged a woman to the pool etc. Sunshine admits that she made a mountain out a mole hill and she regrets it but then ends up saying "I was scared to come back into the house....." 

John believes he is right in everything he is saying and if she still thinks she is but wants to be his friend 'that's too bad!' 

SUNSHINE: You asked to talk to me.. 

JOHN: No, you asked Jose to talk to me! But on more than one occasion, I said 'I don't wanna talk to you anymore!'  

Josie arrives to tell him he is getting on everyone nerves and that he never shuts up. He points out he cant get away, so she tells Sunshine to leave him alone. Josie is on John's side and trying to help him but won't pander to him. John saying if anyone has a problem they should come out and ague with him. Josie says to Sunshine she can see why John is wound up but she's just fed up of hearing him arguing.

MARIO: He's making himself look like an idiot.

9.01pm, Sunshine is now bemoaning the situation to other HM's putting on the waterworks that John doesn't ever want to be friends with her! Ben and Mario say he does but is just hot headed! - She just wants to be friends and doesn't understand what more she can do other than apologise (trying for a bit of sympathy here). Mario tells he just to leave it and she doesn't have to be friends with everyone. Ben says that Sunshine got it right he's nice one minute and then he turns.

Back to the chooks and Dave rather hopefully asks BB if he can shut the chooks up for the night so they go to sleep. John is scowling in the corner. Dave tells him to just chill out, John doesn't know what he can do as he wasn't able to walk away from the situation. Josie telling John he is an angry person. John calmly tells her he doesn't care. I think she will get through to him because he values Josie because she gives him someone to rant to and if he loses that he will be alone in that house.  

JOHN: She wants to sort things out, so here I am!

9.04pm, BEN: Joise's not there and he waits till we're all calm and relaxed and he'll just pop up and take a shot at someone, usually me, 'so you didn't do that task to well did you?' (in a bad aussie accent) He knows that I'm sensitive and he knows that I feel bad about the task and he did it again today, it's just like grow up. One thing that I find quite funny is he cant get out of the pen...

Dave loves John and is always there for him, offers to talk, but says it's hard to get past the walls he's put up. John looks broken; followed by an uneasy silence where nobody knows what to say. Josie just said she thinks this is a lot to do with his dad :( Josie was making it clear to Sunshine that she is not taking her side over John.

9.12pm, Mario says, 'I used to be really angry like John when I was coming to terms with being gay.' Ben says, 'I don't know what you're thinking, Miss Marple.' and that 'he's fixated on having a mother figure.' Josie is concerned about John - she says he was 'welling up' when she was talking to him.

SUNSHINE: He thinks he's in the right and he's not (won't allow Jose to show any empathy for him) 

Josie wont let John get away with his sh*t and pulls him up about it and most importantly he takes it from her and listens to her. He's his own worst enemy sometimes :(

9.15pm, Josie out with John asking if he wants some water, he says no. Josie back in kitchen doing dishes with Mario. Sunshine proves that she can multi-task, she is washing up and admiring herself in the mirror.

BB: Could the dumb blonde please come to the DR? 

9.33pm, Shabby, Caoimhe, Mario and Josie going over some of the blond jokes Josie had to answer for her task. 

JOSIE: How do you keep a blonde in suspence?

STEVE: I don't ****ing know, I'm not blonde!

9.42pm, Dave and Steve getting John to laugh joking about him causing a fight in a chicken coop; cheering him up but has a headache. Dave and John annoyed the hens are getting back up, Dave blames the lights. 

Mario says all of his exes tried to buy his affections. He returned most of the stuff, including the Audi. Josie says she would have been lucky if they bought her a drink.

"I think John needs to listen to Jose. Shes just looking out for him or she wouldn't have warned him that the HM's were b*tching about him. I don't want him to walk, I want him to start screwing his head on and accept that you can't trust everyone in there. He seems like a guy who does actually want to get on with folk and be able to fully trust them - but he just can't cause at the end of the day, these are people he has known for a few weeks. They are in a gameshow and its quite clear some of them are out for all they can get, at any cost.
Now as much as I think he makes an adorable chicken (does the boy ever look bad ), he needs to get out of that coop so he can spend some time with Jose and set the world to rights. I am convinced that Jose will stand up for John as long as she sees fit to do so; she knows when he is in the wrong, but she has shown me so far that she just can't keep away from him and wants to protect him when others are ganging up." (Brit_x JJJAT) 

9.47pm, Josie tells Mario that there are two things that make her "randy" in the Big Brother house - some of the Big Brother voices and John James.

9.59pm,

JOSIE: Are you alright little chicken man? (awwww) 

JOHN: Yeah I'm alright. (though doesn't sound it)

10.01pm, John explaining to Josie how Ben wants to go cos he keeps having his little cheeky digs. I am willing John not to rise to Ben. If John didn't rise then Ben would end up looking the foolish one.

10.07pm, The English, Irish and Scotsman appear to be in a JOKE-THEMED task room. It rains lollies and they have to find the punchlines on the sticks; the girls try to break up the ice lollies. Carnage of lollies is FOOD WASTAGE! 

SHABBY: It's times like this I quite like being on this show.

Then Penguin choco bars fall from the ceiling.

10.17pm, In the bathroom, John telling Josie not to stress out about it he's going to be gone within a week....as long as he doesn't argue with Josie he says.

JOHN: I'm not going to stop standing up for myself in order to avoid eviction, because I don’t care. I will get out, get on a plane and f*** off home and this will all be a distant memory. It’s not a big deal,"  

Josie tells John to get real after he says he doesn't mind waking up and feeling angry all the time. Josie went on to tell her pal John that she felt sorry for him and could relate to his anger issues.

JOSIE: John, I used to be angry like you all the time. I know how horrible it is. 

JOHN: Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for little kids that can't get food. 

10.48pm, Irish, Scottish and English are on a sugar high, the others are having an early night.

"I think Josie has high Emotional intelligence where John's concerned and that's what HE doesn't always like because she gets too close to the truth of who he is which is why he can't stand her trying to work him out all the time. They are very similar in that respect and have been trying to work each other out for the last couple of weeks which is why they get real close, then have a bust up when they get too close to each others barriers, back off a little bit and then come back for more. Their friendship is one of the most real I've ever seen in the BB house and it will take a hell of a lot to break it I believe. I don't know whether that friendship would ever translate into relationship or not, my guess is that they are friends first but it's not completely platonic because there are too many sexual references scattered in amongst their conversations for it to be that way. It's fascinating watching it all develop though" (Aella JJJAT)

11.08pm, Josie is up as she can't sleep so speaks to Shabby about sweets.  Josie thinks John is a lot more confident outside the house, BB have stripped him off his identity he's in a foreign country and taken his clothes. . Josie says she sat with John and he has been bitching for an hour about Ben and was waiting if anything positive would come out his mouth and it hasn't. 
11.24pm, Josie just admitted to Ife she asked John for a chat and he said 'no we'll talk in the morning.'

11.31pm, Josie says she misses Govan, tried to replace him with John but it didn't work. She likes how John makes her laugh sometimes but he is too negative for her. Josie and Caoimhe retell Shabby how they took the mick out of John when he said Sunshine gets upset too easily. Shabby telling Josie that the boys are frightened to nominate Josie; Caoimhe tells Josie that Dave doesn't like her (Josie) Caoimhe leaves.

SHABBY: I know this sounds bad but I want Caoimhe to go more than me because she wants to go and I sometimes want to go.

JOSIE: But you'd be lost.

SHABBY: I think the first week I'll feel sh*t but I have started talking to a few people.

Josie feels for Sunshine even though she was out of order last night and John isn't compromising or reconciling at all.  

SHABBY: Yeah I am a supporter of Sunshine. 

Sunshine annoys her but finds her alright even though she is just selfish. Shabby said BB told her when she wanted to leave that all HMs are entitled to walk out of the front door and have their night.

11.50pm, Josie says both Sunshine and John were to blame for yesterday. Josie tells Caoimhe how John keeps telling her "You just don't care Josie" and then Josie feels regressed and sorry for him. Caiomhe tells her she shouldn't feel like that. 
Josie saying to Caoimhe she feels obliged now, to flirt with him, to pick him up etc  

"I think she's just tired, emotionally tired. It's been one draining emotional experience after another this week, all of them involving John. That's why she's craving Govan because he brought her up where as John when he's on a rant brings her down, I think it's that simple. Everyone around her is trying to talk and she's been trying to be the mediator all day today to keep things on an even keel when all she really wants is an easy life and to be left alone to enjoy her time in the BB house. She needs a goods night sleep to recharge." (Aella JJJAT)

E4 LIVE NIGHT STARTS But they all go to bed except Ife stays up to clean the kitchen.

Davina tweets: JJ is exhausting....I would find him exhausting...Josie is perfect for him.

"I think there are lots of factors affecting John at the moment... He is literally thousands of miles from home, which when you are lonely and fed up... is a big issue... realising that all your loved ones are not just a few miles away. He is without his clothes as I know so many of them are... and that is a big issue..........it literally strips them of their identity. I think the boredom is another HUGE issue..in real life you could read a book, watch a movie or just head out ... you would not be stuck in such claustrophobia.

I really do think he thinks very highly of Josie... she is the one person in that house he genuingly cares a great deal for, and I think she does too in her own way.

I do think however that barring a miracle........he will almost definitely be up for eviction next week.....I think the arguments will have got to a lot of people. I just hope the unthinkable does not happen and that Josie too decides to nom him." (Conchie JJJAT)

"He feels detached because even though he can clearly see and acknowledge where he doesn't like his own behaviour it frustrates him when others don't do the same with themselves. He feels like he can see so clearly what they're doing, as can we and indeed BB but it irritates him when he sees people lying to others and indeed to themselves in his eyes. Like they won't be found out, here of all places.

I think it's so easy to forget that just as we are watching them, they are forced in there, with little else to do but reflect on how they interact with others, to watch themselves. They react, they analyse, they question themselves, they feel and they show it. Some people are definitely more prone to this than others. John is one certainly, Shabby is another, Mario too in a more subtle way, even Ife I feel is reevaluating herself constantly. The others for various reasons don't do this as much, or at least not in such an overt fashion. Some are still hiding behind the personas they've created (Dave/Sunshine), with their true selves surfacing only occasionally, others are flying under the radar, saying little and giving little away other than what's on the surface, not hiding but not giving much away of themselves either (Nathan, Corin, Caiomhe, Steve) and those who although genuine in how they feel they are are looking for something but too afraid to really expose themselves, to examine it, to accept the truth while they're in there because they're afraid of looking and feeling stupid (Ben, Josie).

I think the reason Josie got so annoyed with John in the snug had nothing to do with the 'walk out' argument as she even later pointed out herself, but more with the fact that he can see right through her and she can't handle that. He is right. There's a big difference between what you tell yourself i.e. what you want to believe and the truth of how you really feel. When you reach the point when you learn how to stop lying to yourself, it becomes easier to see when other people are doing it too, in my experience. John is frustrated with himself most of all right now I feel because he recognises that while it's not his job to tell other people the truth as he sees it about them, he can't help himself because that's how he is. He doesn't like bullshit. Basically he's misunderstood. And he so wants to be understood. He wants Josie to understand him most of all in the house. The thing I find interesting with JJJ's dynamic is still the same thing I found interesting at the beginning (how long ago does that seem?) that despites the differences..they're still drawn together. Forget about whether there's romantic connoitations or not. It's just absolutely fascinating to watch two people struggling to understand and come to terms with each other. Take Shabby and the Caiomhe situation, although not the same dynamic, for Shabby, at least the feelings are real. Even when she derides herself at the ridiculousness of the situation, feeling so much for someone she's known for so little time, feel she does. Time is truly relative.

John didn't know Josie less than a month ago and yet look how much she controls his emotions and how he feels now. John cannot and does not want to stay angry at her. When it seems like it's happening he withdraws. He has cried and felt like he wanted to leave. Josie is afraid when he gets too close and is trying terribly hard to be 'realistic' with herself because she's afraid. Of confrontation, of how she feels, of accepting the truth and not what she wants the truth to be. I've said before and will say again that I do think they learn something every time something like this happens but it is and must be, draining for them both. But there's the crux of the thing isn't it? Love comes in so many forms, for others, for experiences, for dreams and all too rarely for ourselves. Why do we do it? Why do we find it so hard to accept." (theirishgirl JJJAT)