Taken from WHATM and JJJAT
6.06pm, Josie doing karate kid sound impressions in the bathroom with fly spray in hand.... Josie is trying to drown the flies with spray rather than gassing them.
6.18pm, Ben to Josie - 'On a full MOON it does things to peoples' stomach like the tides that makes them go a bit funny.'
JOSIE: On a full moon they have extra police and nurses and stuff.
JOSIE: On a full moon they have extra police and nurses and stuff.
BEN: Must be 6pm I can hear big mouth or little mouth or whatever its called..
Ben and Josie discussing media coverage of them outside. Josie said : 'I've done something very very er er ..what I'm not proud of that might er er..'
6.29pm, Ben explaining to Josie how he defended her to John yesterday. Ben sticking the knife into John now...telling Josie about what John said when Ife said she was leaving..he really is a tedious little toad! Ben says Josie is better off to have fun now and settle down later when she's 35 or something old.
JOSIE: I'm sick of looking like a tramp!
Mario and Josie having a cuddle with John lying on the back of the couch watching.
6.43pm, Mario telling John how the press will be after him once he gets out on Friday.
JOHN: What do you mean?
MARIO: To do interviews and stuff.
Slightly bad timing there....John picking his nose in the LR accompanied by sound from the garden and Steve saying 'I think that needs some gravy!' - yeuch!!!
6.49pm, LOL John's face he wasn't happy about Nathan going into the bathroom with Josie. John doesn't think there's any chance at all of Nathan going. John rationalising to Mario why he threw the task....John says he would have chosen the person who he least talks too, but after listening to that person going on about how much this means to them and trying for so long. The person he would have chosen would have meant Caoimhe would have gone. It's one thing to nominate but another to chose to replace.
7pm, Caiomhe out DR straight into Bathroom to talk to Josie after crying in there. Has she left Josie's side other than to go to DR for the last 24 hours? Josie tell Caoimhe that John is over analysing again...'he told me, he's doing it with Mario and then he'll go to Benjy.'
CORIN: I think Nathan is just as good looking as John! (and that Nathan would be more her type to go on a date with)
7.16pm, John and Caoimhe having a natter in the bathroom. John's not the only one who has noticed Nathans super fun side coming out. Caoimhe deems John way fitter than handsome kitchen man. John calls himself the C-word twice and it is NOT bleeped out. He said 'I'm a c***'...'no really I am a c***'...he was talking about why he thinks he'll go... Caoimhe thinks John has the backing of all the 16-22 year olds.
John regrets giving Sunshine carpet burns.
MARIO: It's the pretty boy versus the bad boy.
7.42pm, Mario hoping that 'Sam' wont be coming in to the house as he was annoying.. Dave thinks its too close to call on Friday it's 50/50 but he will miss whoever goes. Dave wants Nathan to stay cos he feels he is more on their team. John walks into the bedroom and they shut up.
Steve asked to leave the DR..BB said 'Steve if you want to be chucked out, BB will chuck you out!' Wishful thinking from someone no doubt. Josie says whenever she goes on holiday people think she is either Swedish or German.
7.56pm, WTF Ben saying Josie looks like Sarah Ferguson. He really is trying to give that girl a complex.
8.38pm, John tries his hand at rolling a fag.
8.56pm, Caoimhe talking about the task and saying Josie had tears in her eyes. Josie is giving the bathroom floor a good going over. Ife has a death wish telling Caoimhe that she said she thought she was leading Shabby on and said it was disgusting and her boyfriend would be furious...blah. Caoimhe not amused by this.
CAOIMHE: (Indignant) This is really embarrassing Ife!
Caiomhe says nothing ever happened between her and Shabby, they flirted. She's getting angry with Ife now. Ife had a dream and Caoimhe was a scorpion.
9.21pm, IFE: Let me finish...
CAOIMHE: No, I don't want you to finish because I don't care. Don't put my eye lashes on and feel guilty!
JOHN: Are we just walking in now?
JOHN: I didn't say s**t!
MARIO: I'm not accusing you of anything, you're accusing me!
Josie was also surprised that someone would dare touch Corin's shoes. LOL they are all impressed with Josie's cleaning skills, bless her she has been stress cleaning.
DAVE (I think): Why, did you?
DAVE: Yeah...it's all the shoes you've ate.
JOHN: Where's the black bag now?
MARIO: By my bed.
Mario takes Ife to it. Josie says she doesn't feel comfortable going to the loo with everyone around.
Josie asks Caoimhe when's the wedding. C says she might be dumped. Caoimhe says there was a strong passionate bond between her and Shabby. Caoimhe has touched Mario's willy!
MARIO: OK, OK, I confess, I did buy both Spice Girls albums.
NATHAN: That's a worse crime than the shoes!
JOSIE: Of course not because we have our ups and our downs.
JOSIE: At ender day, at ender day, at ender day!!
CAOIMHE: (Indignant) This is really embarrassing Ife!
Caiomhe says nothing ever happened between her and Shabby, they flirted. She's getting angry with Ife now. Ife had a dream and Caoimhe was a scorpion.
9.21pm, IFE: Let me finish...
CAOIMHE: No, I don't want you to finish because I don't care. Don't put my eye lashes on and feel guilty!
PMSL you couldn't make it up.
Ife going on about the eyelashes - didn't really want Caoimhe to wear
them but she wanted her to look nice but she didn't want her to have
them. Caoimhe is saying Ife made her look like a bully because she
wouldn't talk to her after the party. Ife says it was because she
was so angry she was screaming in the DR.
9.30pm, Caoimhe
tries to talk to Josie who is in the bedroom toilet. Josie has been
given the shoes for booze task so pretends she's had an accident in
her pants, to try and get her away!
CAOIMHE: Why
you been in the DR, John James?
JOHN (out DR): I had to return all that sh*t....
9.45pm, John
makes out robot man's done a little jiggy (on HL's Josie asks him to
distract the other HM's) He's watching it closely now saying "move
you f*cker!" Exactly Josie. If Caoimhe has done nothing wrong she
shouldn't feel worried at all. Caoimhe wanting to leave agaaaaaaaain.
I like Josie's way of cutting through the crap. Says to Caoimhe 'You and
Shabby know what happened between you so WHY do you care about anyone
else?'
9.52pm, Caoimhe walks into loo John is in there doing business.
JOHN: Are we just walking in now?
CAOIMHE: I don't
mind watching you sh*t!
Caoimhe can't
find her shoes (stolen by JJJ) Josie pretends hers have gone too :P
Josie and Caoimhe blame Mario as he tries to wind people up all the
time, but Mario says two pairs of his shoes are missing too.
NATHAN: Josie
were bagging stuff up while I were on the bed, she thought I was
asleep.
Ife yells at
Mario 'where are the shoes?!' Mario pleads innocent on his life and
everyone's friendship in here. Steve now confronts Josie. Josie says
all her shoes are gone. Josie having trouble staying straight-faced
when Dave asks her about the shoes. Josie has just pinched more shoes
by the pool.
JOSIE: Do I look
the kind of person who goes round nicking shoes?
EVERYONE ELSE: YES!
EVERYONE ELSE: YES!
10.11pm, JOSIE:
You're a bunch of bullies!
JOHN: I didn't say s**t!
MARIO: I'm not accusing you of anything, you're accusing me!
Nathan sits on
top of Josie, so John tries to get him off going along with Josie
having a bad stomach excuse, when really she has a flip flop inside
her hoodie! Josie's now blamed John James and Ben.
Josie was also surprised that someone would dare touch Corin's shoes. LOL they are all impressed with Josie's cleaning skills, bless her she has been stress cleaning.
STEVE (to Josie):
One thing you can't do is lie.
CAOIMHE: Josie
didn't take the shoes, lads.
DAVE (I think): Why, did you?
JOSIE: I've got
a really bad belly.
DAVE: Yeah...it's all the shoes you've ate.
10.28pm, JOSIE:
It's funny how the rot's in the bathroom and so is Ben.
*Dave goes in to investigate*
BEN: Hello ...what???
*Dave goes in to investigate*
BEN: Hello ...what???
Josie looks on
the verge of tears Mario and Caoimhe give her a cuddle.
MARIO: I did NOT
take the shoes. This prank is of low, inferior quality compared to my
usual pranks.
JOHN: Where's the black bag now?
MARIO: By my bed.
Mario takes Ife to it. Josie says she doesn't feel comfortable going to the loo with everyone around.
Josie asks Caoimhe when's the wedding. C says she might be dumped. Caoimhe says there was a strong passionate bond between her and Shabby. Caoimhe has touched Mario's willy!
11.06pm, BB
finally call Josie to DR.
JOSIE: Finally I'm curling over with pain
here.
NATHAN: (trying to be Mr Entertaining) Do you
wish to confess???
MARIO: OK, OK, I confess, I did buy both Spice Girls albums.
NATHAN: That's a worse crime than the shoes!
11.17pm, John telling Caoimhe that the only person in the house that he has fun with
is Josie... Josie just came out of the DR with a box of shoes... lol! Josie is telling
them that she failed her task that would have got them loads of booze
tonight so they could have had a p*ss up. John was in on the shoe-stealing. She admits that she told
Nathan she pooed her pants to put him off her task. Don't think John likes Caoimhe being in the threesome with him and Josie. He looks
annoyed every time she goes near him. She managed to collect 26 pairs
but was rumbled by Nathan and Dave so failed.
11.29pm, Ife
going on and on with John now. John asks Ife if she watched BB last year
and the psych's interpretation of Kris and about the many varied
microexpressions of Kris. He thinks Kris genuinely had feelings for
ol' Sophie. Josie moaning about Nathan: 'When I added honey to the
chicken the other day...you'd thought I had s****ed in the pan.'
11.36pm, John cadging drags from Caoimhe because Josie refused, not wanting to
start him smoking. John talking about how he didn't talk much to
Caoimhe until recently. Caoimhe says John feels the same way that she
does about people in the house and game playing. He will continue to
behave how he always has til Friday. Caoimhe says John is effing
hilarious but Nathan is not funny he is just f***** loud. John saying he
is the alpha male at the end of the day and that the way the house
is right now he would be happy to go anyway. He thinks everything and
everyone is boring.
He's telling C
and Josie what the guys in the nest last night were telling him about
Govan - or what they thought about Govan. John thinks Dave
has turned against Ben a little and has started teaming up with
Nathan and started sucking up to him, probably believing he is a
strong force in the house.
John thinks all
the off the wall interesting characters are gone and he feels that's
sad. Caoimhe doesn't know what she's doing there anymore; Josie tells her they are there to have a laugh.
JOHN: Of course we are, are you having a laugh right now Jose?
JOHN: Of course we are, are you having a laugh right now Jose?
JOSIE: Of course not because we have our ups and our downs.
C & John agree but they're less easily pleased than
she is! C admits that
she stayed to show people what Nathan was really like.
CAOIMHE: After
Shabby left...I wanted him to get his comeuppance. I wanted people to
see what he's like. I wanted to do it for Shabby too because he f***ing intimidating...
11.45pm, John says
he doesn't want to avoid the public vote in a way - 'what's the point
of just dwindling away in a boring house?' Josie is picking up on the
fact that John uses 'at the end of the day' too much.
JOSIE: At ender day, at ender day, at ender day!!
Josie saying her
feet look prehistoric, Caoimhe replies 'Shabby god love her didn't have
the best feet.' Josie walks
out of the garden. John tells Caoimhe she has a week to sort it out and
she is in a difficult position. Caoimhe tells him she cant make an
effort with people, they name the girls who are left then Caoimhe says
Corin is one of the lads.
11.51pm, John doing an impression of Corin 'I am loving it me, I am buzzing
me...'
he makes a face. Josie tells Nathan she may stay up tonight to have a proper clean, she says to hoover up twice in a month is diabolical. Nathan agrees, asks if she is ok and says he wants 'his' Josie back!
he makes a face. Josie tells Nathan she may stay up tonight to have a proper clean, she says to hoover up twice in a month is diabolical. Nathan agrees, asks if she is ok and says he wants 'his' Josie back!
John relates to
Shabby in that she put her own morals and her real life ahead of
winning the game. Winning isn't an option for John as he was planning on
donating his money to charity anyway. He refuses to lick arse for the
sake of the game and Caoimhe agrees. She couldn't give a f**k about being there, because she doesn't care about being here. John would like to get to the end but refuses to sneak under the radar or to lick other peoples
arses' 'and I was doing that...'
Josie calls them and John runs up and
gets a plate from her – she made him the cheese sandwich he wanted!
Josie has now joined them outside, John thinks everyone should try their hardest to complete the task, so they can have hot showers and eat.
E4 LIVE FEED STARTS:
John had felt earlier like he may as well just leave but then thought 'f**k it!' knowing he'd probably be up, which he was. He believes that the the public will get him out as they have a chance to get hold of him. Josie puts forward that she thinks there's a difference - and doesn't agree that people are licking arses and being fake 'I think people just can't be bothered with the awkwardness.'
John disagrees that it's not that they can't be bothered 'if it was on the outside, they could be f**king bothered!!' Josie disputes this 'no, you just wouldn't speak to them! We have to live with them.' Caoimhe had sat out there on her own with Corin having a cigarette, *from the expression she pulls, you'd have thought Corin offered her a dish of bat entrails!* but she wasn't saying anything. Keevil can't bring herself to do it; Josie would rather say 'hello' Caoimhe and Corin hadn't ignored each other they just had very little to say to each other.
JOSIE: (purposefully) Saying that, I totally, totally ignored Dave earlier.
John had tried to ignore Corin but she pushed it and pushed it and pushed it! Corin tries her hardest to ignore Corin too; she goes inside to make something to eat as their cheese toasties look really good to her. Now Josie really likes Dave, John thinks he was wrong about him as well to a certain point.
JOSIE: (it has got her freak juice flowing) Oh my God, this sandwich is amazing! (with that, John chomps back another mouthful)
She suggests for Caoimhe to put some apple in with the sandwich as well (as she'd had it and it was really good) as John continues to moan about his morals - this is both his best and most annoying trait!
JOHN: (there are so many unanswered questions, so many things to say) Look, to a certain extent Jose.. at the end of the day it's not an environment that's suited to me because at the end of the day.. (Josie laughs at him and he giggles back) everybody, everybody, everybody in here to a certain extent in here, is playing a game in some way, shape or form..because they have to!
JOSIE: (The more he goes on, the less convinced she is) Stop going on with your playing games!
He thinks he can say whatever he wants really as he's up and is going to be out Friday. Josie chats to everyone but still has to nominate 'I feel sh*t about it but I'm not playing a game.' John knows she's not and discerns that some people are playing it worse than others but he doesn't want to be a part of that side of it at all.
JOHN: (hates himself right now) And that way, I can't be in the house. How can I.. how can I be in the house.. if I'm not willing to play the game, how can I be here? How can I be in the house? Cos I'm a hypocrite, I go in there preaching my sh*t and preaching my sh*t to you - but I'm nominating. So I'm a hypocrite!
JOSIE: (on the ground of SHUT UP) Don't preach your sh*t!
But these are his beliefs, like Sunshine's were to be a vegan, his are: 'don't f**king play games with people!' Josie's been in the Diary room saying that she feels like a complete hypocrite and prides herself on being a loyal person and (nominations) that is taking it all away from her. BB had asked her, how she thinks her HM's will feel and she realised that it would probably be exactly the same. Well, John refuses to be a part of it 'no more, no more. It ends now!' and this doesn't seem to be a snap decision.
He stands to shake the breadcrumbs off his trousers; now re-fueled for ranting 'for what? For what, to win a 100 grand? For what, to sneak under the radar and and..' Josie cuts him off that some people just want to be here; he does too but not for the wrong reasons. She asks - who's to say that the reasons he thinks are the right ones, are the right ones? He knows and doesn't feel that he can live under the roof if he disagrees with their reasons and can disagree with whatever he wants.
Josie mm's 'but if they wanna be here for that reason, let em be here for that reason.' John can't pinpoint who it is that is here for the wrong reasons in his opinion, he would nominate them but he can't because he doesn't know who is. So therefore, nominations are invalid in his eyes; Josie wants him to stop over-analysing and just nominate people because of their actions that week. Which is what John has been doing but he decides this is not fair and it's a sh*t reason to nominate.
JOHN: (this is a puritanical hang up of his) Should be nominating f**kers who are f**king arse-licking, not people who have done things wrong during the week! And I've been forced to do that. Because everyone is arse-licking and flying under the radar, so therefore I can't see it - because I'm not a f**king Jedi!
Josie questions why he cares so much; he's not gonna lie it f**ks him off 'it annoys the f**k out of me!' She wants to get to the bottom of what actually f**ks him off so he reveals - 'people f**king lick arses for the f**king wrong reasons! I don't know who they are yet..' Josie stops him in his tracks that if he doesn't know who they are, how has he got anything to be f**ked off about? Because he knows that people are doing that but there's that many that he can't pinpoint which ones are and which aren't.
What he's saying doesn't make sense to Jose; Caoimhe is back and claims that John knows who they are but isn't ready to admit it yet. John has his opinions but can't be 100% on that as he's only known them for 3 weeks 'I'd be a sh*t person..' What Josie's getting at is that half of them aren't licking ass but are just being polite as they've got to live together and that's what she's like.
Caoimhe believes Nathan is licking arse (she leaves to put on socks), even though he's got on Josie's nerves a bit she won't be rude to him as she has respect for him. John has respect for everyone in there to a certain level. Cut to the bedroom, Ben is speaking about being with a girl he really adored just before Christmas. Then straight back to John, who disagrees with absolutely everything someone says but respects him because he's got the balls to say it. He affirms that just because he disagrees with him it doesn't mean he disrespects him - he has to respect someone who has the views and is willing to dish them out.
I guess they are talking about Ben because John adds that Josie considers him to be funny, as she believes that if you don't want to do something you shouldn't have to. Josie's outlook is that this is why the whole world lives like they do, apart from in some countries. John is adamant that Ben's was slightly worse; Josie asks John whether he thinks Ben nominated him but John can't comment on that. She points out that he and Benny still speak but John says it's not as much as they used to. John would be there for him if he needs help and these are the situations Ben comes to him for mostly.
Josie worries that what John is trying to do is 'do your own head in!' she appreciates that he has his ethics and principles but shouldn't waste his time doing his head in. He thinks his time will be over soon and he doesn't know what else he's meant to do as he doesn't find anything they do funny.
JOHN: (the biggest compliment a man could give) I'm only happy and f**king around.. and find things funny when I'm hanging around with you!
She doesn't think he will find things funny if he's trying to do his own head in. He tells her 'I was friends with 'em before you Jose, so don't f**king start!' but she's not starting, she's just querying how he'll find anything funny if he does this. He doesn't regard them as funny but arselickers; Caoimhe interjects that she doesn't find any of it funny either - apart from the two of them!
JOHN: Benny's f**king hilarious! I'm laughing at him all the way to the bank!!! I don't find the things he says funny, I find him funny cos I'm laughing at him .. so that is f**king funny.
The point Josie is trying to get at is if John thinks he's going, then not to waste his little time doing his head in. He's not bothered now as he doesn't have to nominate again so he's got no reason to analyse anymore because he doesn't give a f**k! So he's not going to worry about it, but that doesn't change his view that people are licking arse in there; Josie doesn't think anyone has licked hers.
JOHN: (allegorically slaps her in the face with his truth) Of course, they have! You were utterly, plain, outright rude to Dave!! If you had've done that to me in the outside, I would've told you .. f**king, told you to 'leg it!' and he would've too!
Josie asked what she had said to Dave and John jogs her memory that she had ignored him blatantly - 'it was as obvious as a smack on your face!' Josie doesn't see the big deal as 'how can you tell somebody to jog on if they're ignoring you?' John determines that Dave had pushed the friendship between himself and Josie; John heard him the other night doing little jokes 'oh Jose, she's so lovely! She's so lovely!'
JOHN: (blows her mind hole) What do you re.. Come on, Jose! You're a smart girl, work it out!!
Josie feels Dave was trying to give the friendship a chance; John screws up his face and tells her to get f**ked and gives her a couple of head shakes. Caoimhe has to agree with John James, John shrugs that he's sorry (for his bluntness) but Josie thinks Dave was trying to get to know her.
JOHN: (Contorts his face again) You don't try to get to know someone that ignores you and says cheeky little comments at night and that! (laughs) Why would ya?
Caoimhe perceives it to be similar with her situation, in that she'd ignored Dave completely as well, had no time for him whatsoever and suddenly they're in the store room and Dave's telling her that he loves her! 'Licking arse!' Josie views things differently to the way they do; Ife and Mario have come out and Ifster informs them Dave had told her he loved her today as well.
John reminds Josie of something I can't quite hear, but Josie thinks that has been forgotten now and that everyone knows Steve's the winner.
JOHN: (spills what he's been wrestling with) Oh come on, Jose! Steve threatened to walk and their eyes lit up like lightbulbs!! They actually said to his face, 'the only chance we've got of winning, is if you walk so that'd be funny if you did!' When we were on rations.. and there was truth in that.. they were having a good laugh about it, but there was some truth in that! They're F**KED OFF with the fact Steve's here!!
He scathingly insists that Josie doesn't even kid herself that they're not. She doesn't think he can say something like that and this is why they fell out the other night because he'd presumed she didn't care about Ife. He says sorry to Jose but that's what he believes concerning Steve; she doesn't want him to go round presuming things. Ife knew Josie cared about her.
This is sh*t that happened a long time ago but there were little comments John picked up on. John voices that Steve is very down to earth, real and very very black and white and he believes that certain people sucked up Steve's arse because they believe that he's going to be the winner. Ife feels that what Steve has done (and been through) is enough reason to want to be nice to him.
John's not saying this isn't the reason as well but believes it was pushed a little bit too far. Josie speaks up that she has to 'disagree with you, mate' but John has heard it from the horse's mouth so he already knows the opinion. 'Thing is, Steve ain't stupid so he knows. So I didn't need to say anything else.' Steve told John that he is aware but John's not on about Steve and Dave and isn't putting out any names as it was very early on.
JOHN: (said a bit begrudgingly) Steve's not like that.. Steve wouldn't f**king rat anyone out but.. I said to him 'do you believe certain people are licking your arse?' And he said 'yeah, I do.'
Neither of them said any names and that was it. Josie doesn't know how John sees this and she doesn't; John tells them Steve's onto sh*t 'he might look like he's the Baron, just sitting there with one eye open and pretend. But he f**king knows more what's going on more than probably most f**king people in here!' (SC see Baron sat in the shadows)
John doesn't think Josie needs to worry about it; she's not! He has his opinions, Josie has hers and doesn't believe people are but he does - he's heard enough from people there. Josie believes that some people are genuinely trying to enjoy their experience and learn about themselves; John does too. (ad break)
Ife gets irritated that they have to wait for the Diary room for so long; from watching the show Mario always thought BB answered the door immediately when the buzzer was pressed. Nathan tried twice for a headache that he had but gave up as the door was never opened to him; Ife wonders if they assess some things as not serious because they already know what you want to go in for. Whereas if a HM is pacing up and down, whacking stuff around then BOOM it opens straight away.
In the bedroom, Ben is touting to Baron that life is complex and that we make huge mistakes trying to put people into boxes.
BEN: (so they won't be spending the whole summer madly in love like JJJ) Who knows what the future could have in store? But one thing's for sure, I'm not interested in Mario's penis!
He answers Dave that he'd like to settle down and marry a Lebanese woman; he's half-joking but does think Lebanese is the most beautiful race in the world. Ben loves Lebanon as a country (just north of Israel) and has been there. In 10 years he'd love to marry and have children but is not so arrogant as to say that will happen.
First, he has to find a sustainable career and a means for providing for his future family. And if he remains a bachelor, he'll have lots of lovely friends and naughty events!! ;) In the bathroom, John parodies how particular HM's hahaha and slap each other on the back (figuratively) for how funny they are.
JOHN: (adopts the diction of a posh toff) Ha ha ha, yes that was a good joke, jolly old chap!
Sometimes Josie thinks people just can't be bothered with the awkwardness; John agrees with that to a certain extent but he believes some of that has to do with performing for the benefit of the programme. Josie raises the subject of her complete shock from the other night that Corin could be like that.
All John's saying is that 70% want to avoid the awkwardness as they have to live together (Josie classes herself as one in that bracket) and the other 30% is because they want to keep in the programme or for the money etc. He doesn't want to have ANY percent of that 'even if you've only got .1 of a %..' Josie picks him up on why he does talk to everyone then.
This is why he has to go in the Diary room and unload steam because he's so disappointed in himself. 'I really am, Jose. It's f**king eatin' me like you would not believe!' He could relate to Shabby in that respect as it is constantly eating him everyday seriously - the fact that he has to nominate people who are his friends, that he has no problem with whatsoever. John doesn't think anyone deserves to leave the show, hence why he failed the task from before because he refuses to take on that sort of power.
And because he can't play the game, the only way he can come up with to get out of it - is for him to face the public every week. 'No worries at all! Put me up against the public, see what happens.' Josie addresses why he finds it so hard to nominate if he believes people are playing a game - because he doesn't know who the f**k is!! When he thinks that somebody is, they go and prove him wrong so now he's changed his mind again.
Next week, he'd be on fire in the Diary room and would knock the door down, 'I'd nominate on Saturday if I had to! Piece of p*ss!' John doesn't think he's going to get the chance to participate in that process again, convinced that he'll be evicted. He realises he could be wrong but thinks he knows but this is where everyone has got their own opinion and he bets Josie will tell him he's an idiot.
JOHN: (she is understanding but probably feels as though he's been speaking for a YEAR!) I just find it difficult, Jose. I know it's very easy for you to say, but I find it difficult.
Josie attests that they all do; John does to the point where he doesn't want to play so BB prompted him on the rules and regulations as he was in there for 3 hours!! John told them that he didn't think they understood, that he's not playing anymore 'I want to be on the show, I want to stay here til the end to experience everything that you've got to offer.. but I'm not playing the game anymore.' At the end of giving this impassioned speech he still labels himself a hypocrite because he still nominates and that's something he doesn't want to deal with.
He'll do the tasks because the Tree of Temptation stuff is f**king funny but nominating people that he likes is not something he wants to be part of. But he knows he has to do it or he'll be f**king ejected from the house which he doesn't want to happen either - he just wants to be up for f**king nomination. So now his problem is solved as he got what he wanted, so he's got no more to whinge about.
John thinks this is the way it should be every week and had he passed the task today, would have been an absolute hypocrite for running his mouth at BB (and requesting to be up for nomination) Sunday night. Losing is not as painful as what he would have had to endure, if he'd replaced himself as he would have looked and felt 'like an absolute d*ck!' Now at least his conscience is clear and he feels good about what he did.
He doesn't want to be selfish in there either as he appreciates everything they've done and the opportunity but he doesn't want to experience it at the expense of 'f**king off my morals! I'm not doing it like that and that's it.. that's just the way I felt about it.' Josie had also said that she classes herself as a really loyal person but this is all John bases himself on: loyalty, friendships and f**king being true to himself.
JOHN: (has proceeded to do things that he feels demean him) And I haven't done any of that sh*t because I have to f**king go in there and f**king nominate some prick that I don't wanna nominate!
Caoimhe's never had problems as she's always had someone to f**king nominate. See John doesn't and calls being a floater sh*t as he's come to like everybody to a certain point and has a friendship with all to some sort of level. Ife explains that today she'd said to Mario how she likes Ben 50% one way and dislikes him 50% the other, then she went and told Ben! John's opinion is that anyone can say whatever they want so long as they go and tell that person after.
This way Ife doesn't feel like a hypocrite; Caoimhe realises that if she was to tell everyone how she felt about them she'd be pretty f**ked! John says that they don't have to be malicious about it. Ife had gone up to Dave and informed him that she was very confused about his views on same sex marriage and wanted to know what he meant by that. Dave told her and she accepted this because she'd just imagined what he'd said going off what trickled back to her.
The way she'd spoken to Dave about it, he'd have been clear knowing (she'd nominated him) and she'd been berated by BB for discussing noms. Josie corrects his answer, that he'd actually said gay marriage was immoral; when Ife pressed Dave on this he said she'd got it wrong. (Long SC's throughout this topic making it difficult to follow the conversation) From Dave's sentence, Ife feels it kinda makes sense that he would attend a gay marriage but wouldn't want to stand up and join one 'which is his choice.. so then I felt like a d*ck!'
She had gone in the Diary room and harangued him tooth and nail so then felt bad as she probably wouldn't have nominated him, if she'd spoken to him beforehand. This is what John means that unless you speak to the person, you get nowhere. Ife conceived that after having it out with Dave, she may not have imagined up in her head what he'd supposedly said! She'd been under the impression that Dave didn't feel heterosexual and homosexual people had the same rights to be married.
JOSIE: Does anyone mind if I name this Robot, Rupert? Rupert the robot.
It's already been named Keith but Caoimhe thinks Rupert is a nice name for it and then suggests Mickey as an alternative. Josie thinks Metal Mickey is scary-looking (Long SC) In the bedroom, Ben thinks Dave did well catching Josie though there was nobody else it could have been - as she was the one walking around with a great, big black bag. This sorta gave it away a bit!
Back to the bathroom, Josie re-visits a sore spot for herself over how John turned round the other day and made out she'd done something she did not do!
JOHN: (rather go 10 rounds with a grizzly bear than go over this again) Oh f**king hell, Jose! How can you compare the two?
She continues that he went in there (Diary room) and then said 'that' about her, 'so you tried to make me look bad!' By saying that she just didn't care or understand and made her look like a heartless b*tch; John doesn't recall saying any such thing in the Diary room. Josie argues that John told her he had so he can't be saying things like that to her!
JOHN: (making concessions) I said exactly what I say to you out here, in the Diary room.
Josie presents that she does the same; John doesn't want to get involved in this again but what Josie had said, could've affected people on the outside for him. So she wants to know what she'd said 'I said you're an angry man and you're angry inside.. I don't think you're angry with your housemates, you're angry inside. And please can I get your suitcase back for you because I think it would help you. That's exactly what I said, John.'
She notifies him that she'd also told BB that they'd flown John over from the other side of the world, that he's in there with a bunch of people he doesn't know and probably feels a lot worse because he's come from Australia. So not only was he out of his comfort zone but totally out of it so she'd asked for John's suitcase so he could have some of his identity back. She can't see how doing so was out of order.
John thought she'd said something about paranoia as well; this Josie only said to him, not in the Diary room. He's pretty sure that originally she'd told him she went in the Diary room and mentioned paranoia.
JOSIE: (the 12th comment that has had John worried about how she might come across to his Mum) No, I said that to you, John. And I said that you're a paranoid mess, to your face.
JOHN: So you didn't say that in the Diary room?
JOSIE: (felt like he was bashing on her so hard) But you went to the Diary room and made me out to be one of the most heartless b*tches in here.
JOHN: Well actually I didn't. Because you will see what I said. You just jump to conclusions..
She remembers that he went to Ben and Steve to say that she didn't care about Ife, 'so how is that not heartless, John?
The trouble oftentimes with Josie, is that she'll mean the best but say the worst thing you could want to hear at that moment. As such, this can make her come over as cold, abrupt and uncaring when she's the furthest thing from it and DOES have a massive heart. For the lucky few, she lets into her life she cares a hell of a lot but I don't think she always allows herself or feels able to show that. Because virtually every single person she has loved .. have dumped her ass down the drain like sour milk.
She finds it hard to use her words to articulate how she really feels and sometimes shoots herself in the foot! I think there is a huge difference between getting angry and feeling paranoia on occasion and being out and out angry inside and a paranoid mess! Neither of which, I believe John to be - not even at all! He does have spats of anger (who doesn't?) and moments of intense paranoia (which now may have trebled in intensity) but Josie does too.
It wasn't anger or paranoia that was eating John up inside nearly everyday in that house, but that he felt he was compromising his scruples with some of his conduct. And also that his mother would be upset by comments she'd hear made about him.
John sighs that he doesn't want to get involved again, as he knows what he said and his conscience is clear; Josie feels hers is too.
JOHN: (she didn't know how offensive this would be to him or his Mother) Yeah, but what you said was worse. You could've had an effect on my personal life.. like on the outside, (Josie says that he lives in Australia) my Mum could've been watching that. Yeah but my Mum would be watching, listening to some girl that has known me for 3 weeks, telling Big Brother and telling 3 million viewers that..
JOSIE: (bickering without snipping) You don't think my family's watching, when you're trying to bring my Dad into something?
JOHN: What?
JOSIE: You said in the cupboard 'and no (this is cut off sharply as they start talking personal details about her deceased father)
JJJ weren't having a vicious war of words but exchanging their differing feelings on the matter, without raising their voice or losing tempers.
Corin chuckles that she always gets what she wants; Dave wonders what the flippin' heck he's let himself in for by coming in there. Mario makes up that Corin told him today she'd really like Ben to do a poem for her; Ben's already composed one but can't write it down. When Dave gets his Bible the next day, he vows to read them some beautiful poetry of a love story; Corin's loving that!
BEN: (We've all got it - Ben's a SCHMUCK!!) I think you should read us some Leviticus, we can all learn from that!
DAVE: I will read you 8 of the most beautiful, poetic love stories that you've ever heard.
Corin aww's and Dave elaborates that it will take about 15 minutes to read but by the end of it they will feel ravaged by love.
CORIN: (got her hooked) Will I?
STEVE: (Grosses me out that Steve schemes to make his pervy move) Yeah, cos I'll be rolling on ya!
CORIN: (Should have known what she was getting into) Oh Dave, I'm well looking forward to it, really!
Dave inspirits to her that Solomon was one of the most wise and beautiful men to ever walk the planet; Solomon had written beautiful poems and proverbs. A book in the Bible, Song of Solomon is a poem about God's great love for us and how we ravage him with our looks cos he thinks we're so beautiful. He thinks she'll love it and then Ben can see if he can beat it and if he has more about him than Solomon.
DAVE: (pulls his leg) Ben's probably got more front than Solomon. I won't be surprised if he thinks he's better! You've got more neck!
He hopes that Mario won't have this whispering all night and jests 'cos we're trying to sleep up here!!' Steve sniggers whilst Mario extends his apologies that he'd hate to keep him from his appointment with his stories. Dave goofs that 'it's that flippin' Kuku again!' Ife is also sorry for keeping her voice low. Corin groans that she'd do anything for a Pick & Mix; Mario offers the pickings from his nose!
Dave has Corin fantasising torridly about the deal he gets on Pick n mix in a local sweet shop; they have raspberry and blackberry sour sweets, cola bottles and pear drops etc. Mario dissimulates that they are trying to sleep but Corin is too fanatical to hush about some sweet monkey nuts she'd had the other day!
CORIN: (she would like to marry confectionery) They are so fit! I think I could live off sweets, I could!!
Dave tells her what he likes - strawberry sherbets; Corin doesn't really love them but this sweet-talking is getting her giddy! They have a shared penchant for cop cops, Corin particularly loves the smell of them. Steve hoo-ha's that he doesn't want a glass of water after overhearing Mario's whispers that he wants one.
Back in the bathroom, Caoimhe is expressing the complete panic she had when Ife confronted her earlier about what goes on between her and her boyfriend. All she wanted to do was walk away from her and say 'leave me alone' so she could cool off. But no, because Ife talks so much f**king sh*t and didn't let her speak, she had to talk over her and shout, then walk away.
CAOIMHE: (given her the full screaming treatment) Her way is the highway and that's it, sorry!
Josie agrees that what Ife did was wrong because her boyfriend would know that Caoimhe and Shabby are friends. And that she has friends on the outside and she's probably exactly the same. (SC)
BEN: (derides) What with Crocodile Dundee at 90,000 decibels??
He worries that he'll be up talking really loudly now that Caoimhe is up at night with John and Josie. Ife tells off Mario as she's trying to sleep 'stop poking your willy into me!' Steve is aghast at her lack of refinement but she can play that game as well. Dave warns Mario that he will be kicked out of his own bed and back in the Mole hole at this rate!
Technically Ife claims it as hers but Mario refutes that it was traded fair and square. If it came down to a fight, Dave would pick Ife to whoop Mario everytime! Mario rebuts that he would never hit a lady then amends that to female, with a jibe that Ife's not a lady! Ife thinks she'd still win even in an intelligence test but even Dave defends that Mario may have the edge on that.
MARIO: I will not even dignify that with a retort!
IFE: Use all the words you want, Mario. Facts are facts!!
Corin apprehends that tomorrow will mark their one month anniversary of entering the BB house. Also Dave is celebrating his wedding anniversary on Thursday of the same week. Ife hopes that they'll get a party; Dave determines it's a definite no but wants his wife to come in for an hour on Thursday. He is going to go in to appeal to BB for conjugal rights as even prisoners in America are afforded this luxury and they're not in prison.
MARIO: What if we dress Ben up like your wife?
Dave is telling him right now that Ben stinks and doesn't smell anything like his beautiful wife, who smells gorgeous! Steve asks him to stop as he's making him excited!! I think the cameramen believe Steve is hitting it ;) as we view random objects around the house to avert our eyes from his probably handiwork!!!
Dave thinks it would be nice to have the odd bit of information and message from the outside but they aren't told anything. We have to watch the back garden onscreen for a little while even though nobody is outside!
John had stood up to Dave and questioned him on why he said he loved Caoimhe, he doesn't give a f**k! He doesn't care, if he has a question he's gonna ask it! Dave had replied that he tells this to everybody and John answered that he has to cut that sh*t out after Dave asked his advice.
JOHN: I said 'my advice is don't go around telling everyone that you love them, for the next time the situation comes up because you're gonna look like you're playing the game and being fake!' And he goes 'yeah, I understand where you're coming from.' Whether he listens or not is another thing.
Benny had taken John outside one day and turned off his mic as he had to admit certain things to him, that he didn't want the show to hear. Caoimhe badgers to have it revealed what Ben admitted - that Ben was here pretty much to get a job hosting. I don't think this came as a SHOCKING revelation. (SC) The cameras cut away to the bedroom where there is also a SC. (ad break)
During the break, the subject of Rachael had been raised; John would have been happy to have her as a friend but she wasn't having it. Caoimhe respected that John wouldn't take his top off for Rachael when she'd ask. Caoimhe feels that he and Nathan are very different as Nathan doesn't show respect to women but John had handled the Sunshine situation well in the circumstances. It seems that Josie asked John why he hadn't snogged Sunshine when he gives girls sympathy snogs in Australia.
JOHN: (this would have made him the bad guy) Because at breakfast she'd have been probably trying to hold my hand or something and he'd have been like 'what are you doing?'
Yet she'd have thought it was okay because they'd snogged the night before and he would have had to have dealt with that every, single day! 'I can't just walk away like I can in real life.. just ignore a couple of phone calls or something like that. I've gotta see her everyday, so it's not as easy as just having a cheeky snog!'
JOHN: (would have been the biggest mistake any man could make) Having a cheeky snog with someone that wouldn't take it any further and just for a bit of a muck around - happy to do that! Having a snog with someone who generally likes you is another story! Cos you're messing with someones' head and I'm not that sort of person! I wouldn't do that to anybody.
John was right in not snogging Sunshine as she would have got completely the wrong idea especially as she kept thinking he fancied her anyway! Gee, flattered herself much (!) She'd have smothered him, called him pookie bear, made him one of her sparkly crystal rings as an engagement gift while her brain went into overdrive imagining their wedding day!
He didn't have feelings for Sunshine and he'd have hated to make her look (more) stupid in front of her friends, family and the nation. This proves to me that what John felt for Josie was true love and it was real and the most powerful thing in his world. Because he was snogging Josie regularly of his own accord in the house, knowing that she did like him so it is obvious that he reciprocated those feelings of lust, passion and love.
There is no way he would have messed with Josie's mind or heart, so openly and publicly on live TV or he would have been vilified for being so manipulative. Neither was it something he was trapped into turning their relationship up a notch - he wanted what developed with Josie and pursued it just as much as she did! All of his actions in that house after they 'got together' were overflowing with love for her .. I don't know how some are blind to that as it was oozing out of every orifice in his body! Josie forced him into nothing so when their lips entwined it was because they both desired them to.
JOHN: (the biggest compliment a man could give) I'm only happy and f**king around.. and find things funny when I'm hanging around with you!
She doesn't think he will find things funny if he's trying to do his own head in. He tells her 'I was friends with 'em before you Jose, so don't f**king start!' but she's not starting, she's just querying how he'll find anything funny if he does this. He doesn't regard them as funny but arselickers; Caoimhe interjects that she doesn't find any of it funny either - apart from the two of them!
JOHN: Benny's f**king hilarious! I'm laughing at him all the way to the bank!!! I don't find the things he says funny, I find him funny cos I'm laughing at him .. so that is f**king funny.
The point Josie is trying to get at is if John thinks he's going, then not to waste his little time doing his head in. He's not bothered now as he doesn't have to nominate again so he's got no reason to analyse anymore because he doesn't give a f**k! So he's not going to worry about it, but that doesn't change his view that people are licking arse in there; Josie doesn't think anyone has licked hers.
JOHN: (allegorically slaps her in the face with his truth) Of course, they have! You were utterly, plain, outright rude to Dave!! If you had've done that to me in the outside, I would've told you .. f**king, told you to 'leg it!' and he would've too!
JOHN: (blows her mind hole) What do you re.. Come on, Jose! You're a smart girl, work it out!!
Josie feels Dave was trying to give the friendship a chance; John screws up his face and tells her to get f**ked and gives her a couple of head shakes. Caoimhe has to agree with John James, John shrugs that he's sorry (for his bluntness) but Josie thinks Dave was trying to get to know her.
JOHN: (Contorts his face again) You don't try to get to know someone that ignores you and says cheeky little comments at night and that! (laughs) Why would ya?
Caoimhe perceives it to be similar with her situation, in that she'd ignored Dave completely as well, had no time for him whatsoever and suddenly they're in the store room and Dave's telling her that he loves her! 'Licking arse!' Josie views things differently to the way they do; Ife and Mario have come out and Ifster informs them Dave had told her he loved her today as well.
John reminds Josie of something I can't quite hear, but Josie thinks that has been forgotten now and that everyone knows Steve's the winner.
He scathingly insists that Josie doesn't even kid herself that they're not. She doesn't think he can say something like that and this is why they fell out the other night because he'd presumed she didn't care about Ife. He says sorry to Jose but that's what he believes concerning Steve; she doesn't want him to go round presuming things. Ife knew Josie cared about her.
This is sh*t that happened a long time ago but there were little comments John picked up on. John voices that Steve is very down to earth, real and very very black and white and he believes that certain people sucked up Steve's arse because they believe that he's going to be the winner. Ife feels that what Steve has done (and been through) is enough reason to want to be nice to him.
John's not saying this isn't the reason as well but believes it was pushed a little bit too far. Josie speaks up that she has to 'disagree with you, mate' but John has heard it from the horse's mouth so he already knows the opinion. 'Thing is, Steve ain't stupid so he knows. So I didn't need to say anything else.' Steve told John that he is aware but John's not on about Steve and Dave and isn't putting out any names as it was very early on.
JOHN: (said a bit begrudgingly) Steve's not like that.. Steve wouldn't f**king rat anyone out but.. I said to him 'do you believe certain people are licking your arse?' And he said 'yeah, I do.'
John doesn't think Josie needs to worry about it; she's not! He has his opinions, Josie has hers and doesn't believe people are but he does - he's heard enough from people there. Josie believes that some people are genuinely trying to enjoy their experience and learn about themselves; John does too. (ad break)
Ife gets irritated that they have to wait for the Diary room for so long; from watching the show Mario always thought BB answered the door immediately when the buzzer was pressed. Nathan tried twice for a headache that he had but gave up as the door was never opened to him; Ife wonders if they assess some things as not serious because they already know what you want to go in for. Whereas if a HM is pacing up and down, whacking stuff around then BOOM it opens straight away.
In the bedroom, Ben is touting to Baron that life is complex and that we make huge mistakes trying to put people into boxes.
BEN: (so they won't be spending the whole summer madly in love like JJJ) Who knows what the future could have in store? But one thing's for sure, I'm not interested in Mario's penis!
He answers Dave that he'd like to settle down and marry a Lebanese woman; he's half-joking but does think Lebanese is the most beautiful race in the world. Ben loves Lebanon as a country (just north of Israel) and has been there. In 10 years he'd love to marry and have children but is not so arrogant as to say that will happen.
JOHN: (adopts the diction of a posh toff) Ha ha ha, yes that was a good joke, jolly old chap!
Sometimes Josie thinks people just can't be bothered with the awkwardness; John agrees with that to a certain extent but he believes some of that has to do with performing for the benefit of the programme. Josie raises the subject of her complete shock from the other night that Corin could be like that.
All John's saying is that 70% want to avoid the awkwardness as they have to live together (Josie classes herself as one in that bracket) and the other 30% is because they want to keep in the programme or for the money etc. He doesn't want to have ANY percent of that 'even if you've only got .1 of a %..' Josie picks him up on why he does talk to everyone then.
This is why he has to go in the Diary room and unload steam because he's so disappointed in himself. 'I really am, Jose. It's f**king eatin' me like you would not believe!' He could relate to Shabby in that respect as it is constantly eating him everyday seriously - the fact that he has to nominate people who are his friends, that he has no problem with whatsoever. John doesn't think anyone deserves to leave the show, hence why he failed the task from before because he refuses to take on that sort of power.
Next week, he'd be on fire in the Diary room and would knock the door down, 'I'd nominate on Saturday if I had to! Piece of p*ss!' John doesn't think he's going to get the chance to participate in that process again, convinced that he'll be evicted. He realises he could be wrong but thinks he knows but this is where everyone has got their own opinion and he bets Josie will tell him he's an idiot.
JOHN: (she is understanding but probably feels as though he's been speaking for a YEAR!) I just find it difficult, Jose. I know it's very easy for you to say, but I find it difficult.
Josie attests that they all do; John does to the point where he doesn't want to play so BB prompted him on the rules and regulations as he was in there for 3 hours!! John told them that he didn't think they understood, that he's not playing anymore 'I want to be on the show, I want to stay here til the end to experience everything that you've got to offer.. but I'm not playing the game anymore.' At the end of giving this impassioned speech he still labels himself a hypocrite because he still nominates and that's something he doesn't want to deal with.
He'll do the tasks because the Tree of Temptation stuff is f**king funny but nominating people that he likes is not something he wants to be part of. But he knows he has to do it or he'll be f**king ejected from the house which he doesn't want to happen either - he just wants to be up for f**king nomination. So now his problem is solved as he got what he wanted, so he's got no more to whinge about.
He doesn't want to be selfish in there either as he appreciates everything they've done and the opportunity but he doesn't want to experience it at the expense of 'f**king off my morals! I'm not doing it like that and that's it.. that's just the way I felt about it.' Josie had also said that she classes herself as a really loyal person but this is all John bases himself on: loyalty, friendships and f**king being true to himself.
JOHN: (has proceeded to do things that he feels demean him) And I haven't done any of that sh*t because I have to f**king go in there and f**king nominate some prick that I don't wanna nominate!
Caoimhe's never had problems as she's always had someone to f**king nominate. See John doesn't and calls being a floater sh*t as he's come to like everybody to a certain point and has a friendship with all to some sort of level. Ife explains that today she'd said to Mario how she likes Ben 50% one way and dislikes him 50% the other, then she went and told Ben! John's opinion is that anyone can say whatever they want so long as they go and tell that person after.
This way Ife doesn't feel like a hypocrite; Caoimhe realises that if she was to tell everyone how she felt about them she'd be pretty f**ked! John says that they don't have to be malicious about it. Ife had gone up to Dave and informed him that she was very confused about his views on same sex marriage and wanted to know what he meant by that. Dave told her and she accepted this because she'd just imagined what he'd said going off what trickled back to her.
She had gone in the Diary room and harangued him tooth and nail so then felt bad as she probably wouldn't have nominated him, if she'd spoken to him beforehand. This is what John means that unless you speak to the person, you get nowhere. Ife conceived that after having it out with Dave, she may not have imagined up in her head what he'd supposedly said! She'd been under the impression that Dave didn't feel heterosexual and homosexual people had the same rights to be married.
JOSIE: Does anyone mind if I name this Robot, Rupert? Rupert the robot.
It's already been named Keith but Caoimhe thinks Rupert is a nice name for it and then suggests Mickey as an alternative. Josie thinks Metal Mickey is scary-looking (Long SC) In the bedroom, Ben thinks Dave did well catching Josie though there was nobody else it could have been - as she was the one walking around with a great, big black bag. This sorta gave it away a bit!
Back to the bathroom, Josie re-visits a sore spot for herself over how John turned round the other day and made out she'd done something she did not do!
JOHN: (rather go 10 rounds with a grizzly bear than go over this again) Oh f**king hell, Jose! How can you compare the two?
JOHN: (making concessions) I said exactly what I say to you out here, in the Diary room.
Josie presents that she does the same; John doesn't want to get involved in this again but what Josie had said, could've affected people on the outside for him. So she wants to know what she'd said 'I said you're an angry man and you're angry inside.. I don't think you're angry with your housemates, you're angry inside. And please can I get your suitcase back for you because I think it would help you. That's exactly what I said, John.'
She notifies him that she'd also told BB that they'd flown John over from the other side of the world, that he's in there with a bunch of people he doesn't know and probably feels a lot worse because he's come from Australia. So not only was he out of his comfort zone but totally out of it so she'd asked for John's suitcase so he could have some of his identity back. She can't see how doing so was out of order.
John thought she'd said something about paranoia as well; this Josie only said to him, not in the Diary room. He's pretty sure that originally she'd told him she went in the Diary room and mentioned paranoia.
JOSIE: (the 12th comment that has had John worried about how she might come across to his Mum) No, I said that to you, John. And I said that you're a paranoid mess, to your face.
JOSIE: (felt like he was bashing on her so hard) But you went to the Diary room and made me out to be one of the most heartless b*tches in here.
JOHN: Well actually I didn't. Because you will see what I said. You just jump to conclusions..
She remembers that he went to Ben and Steve to say that she didn't care about Ife, 'so how is that not heartless, John?
The trouble oftentimes with Josie, is that she'll mean the best but say the worst thing you could want to hear at that moment. As such, this can make her come over as cold, abrupt and uncaring when she's the furthest thing from it and DOES have a massive heart. For the lucky few, she lets into her life she cares a hell of a lot but I don't think she always allows herself or feels able to show that. Because virtually every single person she has loved .. have dumped her ass down the drain like sour milk.
She finds it hard to use her words to articulate how she really feels and sometimes shoots herself in the foot! I think there is a huge difference between getting angry and feeling paranoia on occasion and being out and out angry inside and a paranoid mess! Neither of which, I believe John to be - not even at all! He does have spats of anger (who doesn't?) and moments of intense paranoia (which now may have trebled in intensity) but Josie does too.
It wasn't anger or paranoia that was eating John up inside nearly everyday in that house, but that he felt he was compromising his scruples with some of his conduct. And also that his mother would be upset by comments she'd hear made about him.
JOHN: (she didn't know how offensive this would be to him or his Mother) Yeah, but what you said was worse. You could've had an effect on my personal life.. like on the outside, (Josie says that he lives in Australia) my Mum could've been watching that. Yeah but my Mum would be watching, listening to some girl that has known me for 3 weeks, telling Big Brother and telling 3 million viewers that..
JOSIE: (bickering without snipping) You don't think my family's watching, when you're trying to bring my Dad into something?
JOHN: What?
JOSIE: You said in the cupboard 'and no (this is cut off sharply as they start talking personal details about her deceased father)
JJJ weren't having a vicious war of words but exchanging their differing feelings on the matter, without raising their voice or losing tempers.
Corin chuckles that she always gets what she wants; Dave wonders what the flippin' heck he's let himself in for by coming in there. Mario makes up that Corin told him today she'd really like Ben to do a poem for her; Ben's already composed one but can't write it down. When Dave gets his Bible the next day, he vows to read them some beautiful poetry of a love story; Corin's loving that!
BEN: (We've all got it - Ben's a SCHMUCK!!) I think you should read us some Leviticus, we can all learn from that!
Corin aww's and Dave elaborates that it will take about 15 minutes to read but by the end of it they will feel ravaged by love.
CORIN: (got her hooked) Will I?
STEVE: (Grosses me out that Steve schemes to make his pervy move) Yeah, cos I'll be rolling on ya!
CORIN: (Should have known what she was getting into) Oh Dave, I'm well looking forward to it, really!
Dave inspirits to her that Solomon was one of the most wise and beautiful men to ever walk the planet; Solomon had written beautiful poems and proverbs. A book in the Bible, Song of Solomon is a poem about God's great love for us and how we ravage him with our looks cos he thinks we're so beautiful. He thinks she'll love it and then Ben can see if he can beat it and if he has more about him than Solomon.
DAVE: (pulls his leg) Ben's probably got more front than Solomon. I won't be surprised if he thinks he's better! You've got more neck!
He hopes that Mario won't have this whispering all night and jests 'cos we're trying to sleep up here!!' Steve sniggers whilst Mario extends his apologies that he'd hate to keep him from his appointment with his stories. Dave goofs that 'it's that flippin' Kuku again!' Ife is also sorry for keeping her voice low. Corin groans that she'd do anything for a Pick & Mix; Mario offers the pickings from his nose!
CORIN: (she would like to marry confectionery) They are so fit! I think I could live off sweets, I could!!
Dave tells her what he likes - strawberry sherbets; Corin doesn't really love them but this sweet-talking is getting her giddy! They have a shared penchant for cop cops, Corin particularly loves the smell of them. Steve hoo-ha's that he doesn't want a glass of water after overhearing Mario's whispers that he wants one.
Back in the bathroom, Caoimhe is expressing the complete panic she had when Ife confronted her earlier about what goes on between her and her boyfriend. All she wanted to do was walk away from her and say 'leave me alone' so she could cool off. But no, because Ife talks so much f**king sh*t and didn't let her speak, she had to talk over her and shout, then walk away.
CAOIMHE: (given her the full screaming treatment) Her way is the highway and that's it, sorry!
Josie agrees that what Ife did was wrong because her boyfriend would know that Caoimhe and Shabby are friends. And that she has friends on the outside and she's probably exactly the same. (SC)
BEN: (derides) What with Crocodile Dundee at 90,000 decibels??
Technically Ife claims it as hers but Mario refutes that it was traded fair and square. If it came down to a fight, Dave would pick Ife to whoop Mario everytime! Mario rebuts that he would never hit a lady then amends that to female, with a jibe that Ife's not a lady! Ife thinks she'd still win even in an intelligence test but even Dave defends that Mario may have the edge on that.
MARIO: I will not even dignify that with a retort!
IFE: Use all the words you want, Mario. Facts are facts!!
Corin apprehends that tomorrow will mark their one month anniversary of entering the BB house. Also Dave is celebrating his wedding anniversary on Thursday of the same week. Ife hopes that they'll get a party; Dave determines it's a definite no but wants his wife to come in for an hour on Thursday. He is going to go in to appeal to BB for conjugal rights as even prisoners in America are afforded this luxury and they're not in prison.
MARIO: What if we dress Ben up like your wife?
Dave is telling him right now that Ben stinks and doesn't smell anything like his beautiful wife, who smells gorgeous! Steve asks him to stop as he's making him excited!! I think the cameramen believe Steve is hitting it ;) as we view random objects around the house to avert our eyes from his probably handiwork!!!
John had stood up to Dave and questioned him on why he said he loved Caoimhe, he doesn't give a f**k! He doesn't care, if he has a question he's gonna ask it! Dave had replied that he tells this to everybody and John answered that he has to cut that sh*t out after Dave asked his advice.
JOHN: I said 'my advice is don't go around telling everyone that you love them, for the next time the situation comes up because you're gonna look like you're playing the game and being fake!' And he goes 'yeah, I understand where you're coming from.' Whether he listens or not is another thing.
Benny had taken John outside one day and turned off his mic as he had to admit certain things to him, that he didn't want the show to hear. Caoimhe badgers to have it revealed what Ben admitted - that Ben was here pretty much to get a job hosting. I don't think this came as a SHOCKING revelation. (SC) The cameras cut away to the bedroom where there is also a SC. (ad break)
During the break, the subject of Rachael had been raised; John would have been happy to have her as a friend but she wasn't having it. Caoimhe respected that John wouldn't take his top off for Rachael when she'd ask. Caoimhe feels that he and Nathan are very different as Nathan doesn't show respect to women but John had handled the Sunshine situation well in the circumstances. It seems that Josie asked John why he hadn't snogged Sunshine when he gives girls sympathy snogs in Australia.
JOHN: (this would have made him the bad guy) Because at breakfast she'd have been probably trying to hold my hand or something and he'd have been like 'what are you doing?'
JOHN: (would have been the biggest mistake any man could make) Having a cheeky snog with someone that wouldn't take it any further and just for a bit of a muck around - happy to do that! Having a snog with someone who generally likes you is another story! Cos you're messing with someones' head and I'm not that sort of person! I wouldn't do that to anybody.
John was right in not snogging Sunshine as she would have got completely the wrong idea especially as she kept thinking he fancied her anyway! Gee, flattered herself much (!) She'd have smothered him, called him pookie bear, made him one of her sparkly crystal rings as an engagement gift while her brain went into overdrive imagining their wedding day!
He didn't have feelings for Sunshine and he'd have hated to make her look (more) stupid in front of her friends, family and the nation. This proves to me that what John felt for Josie was true love and it was real and the most powerful thing in his world. Because he was snogging Josie regularly of his own accord in the house, knowing that she did like him so it is obvious that he reciprocated those feelings of lust, passion and love.
There is no way he would have messed with Josie's mind or heart, so openly and publicly on live TV or he would have been vilified for being so manipulative. Neither was it something he was trapped into turning their relationship up a notch - he wanted what developed with Josie and pursued it just as much as she did! All of his actions in that house after they 'got together' were overflowing with love for her .. I don't know how some are blind to that as it was oozing out of every orifice in his body! Josie forced him into nothing so when their lips entwined it was because they both desired them to.
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