Ben and Dave are in the bedroom with John & Josie; the pompous, self-centred jackass informs John that he's seen days where he's been particularly cranky and out of sorts but others when he's on really good form.
JOHN: (this surprises him to hear) The whole day? I don't think so. I've never been in here a whole day and been.. never. Not one day.
BEN: You've never had one day where you've felt lousy all day?
JOHN: Nah. No way! A whole day in here is like a year anywhere else. Not one day.
Mario asks Josie how it feels to be out of the robot suit; she tells him that it's amazing and she feels like a new woman. She is feeling the material of John's sweater as they lay in bed and then she has a tussle of a lock of his hair.
JOSIE: (well still.. he looks nice but she's only wind-up merchanting) The first thing you need to do is go to a hairdresser, when you get out of here. (SC)
From lipreading, he tartly responds that he couldn't give a f**k as he's only got one day left.
JOHN: I do not.
JOSIE: Hold on, don't.. do you know what, you've contradicted yourself sooo much in here.
JOHN: (playfully wants her to bring it on) Alright come on, Mrs ..(SC as she points out that John uses his special cream) to keep away the acka dackers.
She also lists that he uses a UV light (he corrects her that it is an anti-aging light) and bleaches his hair. (SC)
JOSIE: (still teasing but making him feel like an ugly mug) Because John, do you know what I mean? No one's gonna want to know you.
He gives her a look of befuddlement and she whispers that this was a joke then sucks her thumb.
JOHN: (be chill!) The only .. what is it gonna stop me from doing? Say, say ok.. say I got a full out and out mullet - what is it going to stop me from doing? Picking up girls? (SC) Attracting the opposite sex .. and I don't care. (SC)
They exchange a series of scowly faces back and forth - so judging by which neither think very much of the other's opinion on the matter. When sound is back, Josie declares that it's got nothing to do with attracting the opposite sex.
JOHN: (Misunderstanding where she's going with this) Okay, sometimes the same sex.
JOSIE: No, it's got nothing to do with that. To make yourself feel better! Like all week I've been like a tramp, I haven't felt very good about myself .. and then if I go straighten my hair, things like that.. I feel nice, I feel better.
JOHN: (throws his head back, laughing in the knowledge that the consequences might be grave) This could be dangerous territory, so I'm not gonna get involved.
JOSIE: Who am I doing my hair for? You? (John answers 'no' curtly) Who? Ben? Nathan?
He states that he doesn't think she is for them either; she's not 'I'm doing it for myself cos it makes me feel good.' Josie feels it is the same reason why people wear a suit when they go to work 'cos they look the part, so they feel the part. Not to attract anyone.' John was laying back with his eyes shut but then sits up again to pick at the side of his nostril.
JOHN: No, not always to attract anyone but just..
JOSIE: (exuberant) So I've just proved you wrong! So you're wrong and I'm right!!
John James suggests they should stop talking about the current subject as he has strong views too and it 'could get nasty' if they keep going.
Do you think John is singing a different tune on the matter now? Has he beefed up so that he feels more self-confident in his body or so that he'll be more attractive to the opposite sex? Even if he does still have that same mullety mop top (like the one in his twitter profile pic) that would not deter girls from fancying him or hope that he would pick them up! But John James, you definitely don't fit the criteria for Christian Grey :P
Obviously before Josie lost weight, she didn't feel very good about herself and now she has she must feel fitter and healthier for it. Opinions are divided on how she appears - some wanting her to go back to her old self again, others blown away by how knock out she looks. Do the hair extensions, fake tan, lip filler and boob job make her feel better about herself? Does she now think she looks nice? Like I've commented before they were both already fabulous-looking with the most beautiful, delicate features and found each other so fun to look at. Do they really view each other as a munter now or were they just saying it to be mean?
DID YOU SAY LICK IT OR KISS IT? (James 32 video):
JOHN: (this surprises him to hear) The whole day? I don't think so. I've never been in here a whole day and been.. never. Not one day.
BEN: You've never had one day where you've felt lousy all day?
JOHN: Nah. No way! A whole day in here is like a year anywhere else. Not one day.
Mario asks Josie how it feels to be out of the robot suit; she tells him that it's amazing and she feels like a new woman. She is feeling the material of John's sweater as they lay in bed and then she has a tussle of a lock of his hair.
JOSIE: (well still.. he looks nice but she's only wind-up merchanting) The first thing you need to do is go to a hairdresser, when you get out of here. (SC)
From lipreading, he tartly responds that he couldn't give a f**k as he's only got one day left.
JOHN: I do not.
JOSIE: Hold on, don't.. do you know what, you've contradicted yourself sooo much in here.
She also lists that he uses a UV light (he corrects her that it is an anti-aging light) and bleaches his hair. (SC)
JOSIE: (still teasing but making him feel like an ugly mug) Because John, do you know what I mean? No one's gonna want to know you.
He gives her a look of befuddlement and she whispers that this was a joke then sucks her thumb.
JOHN: (be chill!) The only .. what is it gonna stop me from doing? Say, say ok.. say I got a full out and out mullet - what is it going to stop me from doing? Picking up girls? (SC) Attracting the opposite sex .. and I don't care. (SC)
They exchange a series of scowly faces back and forth - so judging by which neither think very much of the other's opinion on the matter. When sound is back, Josie declares that it's got nothing to do with attracting the opposite sex.
JOHN: (Misunderstanding where she's going with this) Okay, sometimes the same sex.
JOSIE: No, it's got nothing to do with that. To make yourself feel better! Like all week I've been like a tramp, I haven't felt very good about myself .. and then if I go straighten my hair, things like that.. I feel nice, I feel better.
JOHN: (throws his head back, laughing in the knowledge that the consequences might be grave) This could be dangerous territory, so I'm not gonna get involved.
He states that he doesn't think she is for them either; she's not 'I'm doing it for myself cos it makes me feel good.' Josie feels it is the same reason why people wear a suit when they go to work 'cos they look the part, so they feel the part. Not to attract anyone.' John was laying back with his eyes shut but then sits up again to pick at the side of his nostril.
JOHN: No, not always to attract anyone but just..
JOSIE: (exuberant) So I've just proved you wrong! So you're wrong and I'm right!!
John James suggests they should stop talking about the current subject as he has strong views too and it 'could get nasty' if they keep going.
Do you think John is singing a different tune on the matter now? Has he beefed up so that he feels more self-confident in his body or so that he'll be more attractive to the opposite sex? Even if he does still have that same mullety mop top (like the one in his twitter profile pic) that would not deter girls from fancying him or hope that he would pick them up! But John James, you definitely don't fit the criteria for Christian Grey :P
Obviously before Josie lost weight, she didn't feel very good about herself and now she has she must feel fitter and healthier for it. Opinions are divided on how she appears - some wanting her to go back to her old self again, others blown away by how knock out she looks. Do the hair extensions, fake tan, lip filler and boob job make her feel better about herself? Does she now think she looks nice? Like I've commented before they were both already fabulous-looking with the most beautiful, delicate features and found each other so fun to look at. Do they really view each other as a munter now or were they just saying it to be mean?
I think this clips begins with Josie celebrating being 'right' in this debate of theirs but as is par for the course, John is not going to take that lying down. John considers that even at your job if you dress up it's because you want people to notice 'whether that's for attractiveness or whatever.. majority of the time it's for attractiveness.' But he does relent that some of the time it could be for that person to feel good about themselves (SC) and the punk ass pulls a smug facial expression at Josie.
JOSIE: Alright.
JOHN: (gloats) So therefore, no win - I win. I won, you lost. (makes silly girly noises)
JOSIE: No, you just.. you just, you just tried to change the subject.
JOHN: (Copies her high pitched self-celebrations) Oh yeaahhhhh! I didn't try to change any subject. (SC) I haven't whinged about the acka dackers in here. You have. I haven't whinged about nothin.' (pointing the finger) Corin nearly went home!
When Josie had perceived John to whinge about a spot, she couldn't even see anything on his chin. He'd said that he had an acka dacka but he didn't care about having it; although it was one of those that hurt inside the skin and he gets them all the time. So his umbrage was not for vanity but because it was causing him pain!
JOSIE: Oh, sorry.
JOHN: So (*makes buzzer noise indicating that she's incorrect*) wrong! (mickey takes her earlier victory cheers) Yeeeeeah. Wooooo! Woooo! Woooo!
JOSIE: (concedes defeat) Alright, so you won that one, yeah. So it's one-one.
JOHN: Yeah, sucker! But I just thought that I'd tell ya (SC)
John is greatly tickled by her parting retort 'did you say lick it or kiss it?' (her ass presumably and it was KISS IT!)
JOHN: Hey, do you wanna make some (SC) Nah, do you wanna share some?
She'd just eaten a piece of bread but offers to make him some as she leaves the bedroom; he declines and then presents the same pitch to the room 'hey, does anyone want beans on toast?' (SC) afterwards Mario starts speaking about someone who messed their boobs up with cosmetic surgery when they were a very, very pretty girl to start with.
Mario and John are discussing the cost of their Michael Jackson concert tickets (£1500 for Mario's row 4 seat, £800 for John James' row 10 seat). Mario jokes his date was happy MJ died due to the ticket refund. Josie's friend cried and said it was like her brother died.
8.10pm, Ben off
on a John rant cos he mentioned "mama Corin" stuck up for
him.
DAVE (to Ben): If your new friend [said snidely] Caoimhe wants to stick up for you, why doesn't she have a go at John?
DAVE (to Ben): If your new friend [said snidely] Caoimhe wants to stick up for you, why doesn't she have a go at John?
8.28pm, JOHN (about the crowd): They prefer to boo than to cheer. I can't see him
[Nathan] getting booed.
Mario has asked BB for alcohol to celebrate the time in the House for JJ or Nathan but BB hasn't answered. John says that Ben is better with a friendship group than John is; he's a hopper. John likes Mario's hair.
IFE: I don't like it. Why do you have a bit sticking up by your ear?
MARIO: John and I are smooching tonight so I have to have it how he likes it.
Mario has asked BB for alcohol to celebrate the time in the House for JJ or Nathan but BB hasn't answered. John says that Ben is better with a friendship group than John is; he's a hopper. John likes Mario's hair.
IFE: I don't like it. Why do you have a bit sticking up by your ear?
MARIO: John and I are smooching tonight so I have to have it how he likes it.
8.42pm, Ben and
Dave have gone to the hut. Mario/JJ/Steve/Jose/Keeva - discuss how
they are going for a bitch and can't be bothered with it anymore.
CORIN: How dare John James have a go at him (Ben) S/Cs
NATHAN: In fairness, Ben does himself no favours at all...he opens his mouth and says that he's not willing to help anyone.
CORIN: It's just I wish they'd have a go once about the situation and then forget about it, not go on and on and on.
NATHAN: In fairness, Ben does himself no favours at all...he opens his mouth and says that he's not willing to help anyone.
CORIN: It's just I wish they'd have a go once about the situation and then forget about it, not go on and on and on.
Nathan happy Corin gave JJ some Sh1t today. Ben, Corin and Dave turn on John,
saying he isn't a team player either.
BEN: It's all about him. he is in his little clique, she has chatted to everyone. (He doesn't think John should go on at Ben for not doing the washing up cos John doesn't pull his weight.) It's an excuse for him to have a go at me, he started off as my friend, but now he goes on ......
Ben is taking the piss out of him for crying over his argument over Josie. How lovely (!) He's talking about John being a loner in the real world now, as he was with Mario yesterday, a few hours before he took exception at 'the guys' presuming to make assumptions about him. He also told Mario while the forum was down this afternoon that he has NEVER made assumptions about anyone's life in the outside world. Ben was really below the belt there about Josie. She doesn't sleep all day in bed!
BEN: It's all about him. he is in his little clique, she has chatted to everyone. (He doesn't think John should go on at Ben for not doing the washing up cos John doesn't pull his weight.) It's an excuse for him to have a go at me, he started off as my friend, but now he goes on ......
Ben is taking the piss out of him for crying over his argument over Josie. How lovely (!) He's talking about John being a loner in the real world now, as he was with Mario yesterday, a few hours before he took exception at 'the guys' presuming to make assumptions about him. He also told Mario while the forum was down this afternoon that he has NEVER made assumptions about anyone's life in the outside world. Ben was really below the belt there about Josie. She doesn't sleep all day in bed!
9.08pm, At the
smoking area:
CORIN: Like, like, screech, squawk, like, like
IFE: I put my bandana around the model, moan, moan, Terry, I'm not washing that hoodie on principal, moan, moan, moan
WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE, WHO NEEDS ENEMIES? (James 32 video):
Ben realises that what's he's saying is horrible about someone he once highly regarded and adored as a friend.
BEN: (back on his broomstick) But he's pushed me to such a degree that.. although Nathan will always give me schtick, it's not personalised schtick. Nathan is telling me off or having a go at me over something he thinks is wrong - and that's that. And I can respect that.
He might not agree but has this level of regard for Nathan but with John, Ben considers the onslaught he receives to be a campaign. If John goes tomorrow, Ben will be glad to have peace and quiet instead of 'someone being a d*ck to me the whole time' but doesn't think John will go.
DAVE: I think for the group (he really means for his belly), it will be better if John goes .. you know cos Nathan does all the cooking..
BEN: Nathan also isn't particularly partisan, he has a go at individuals.
Dave also believes that while John's still there that there's an opportunity for division.
BEN: (Holy panty dropper! Forgive the boy for having a best friend! GEE!!) Well he takes Josie off!
Like Ben, Dave doesn't think John will be evicted but the vote is going to be close, really close, the closest one yet. (89% yeah reallllllllllllllll close) Ben doesn't doubt that John will be kept in by girls phoning to save him; Dave's really struggling with this thing with Caoimhe. Real 'sweethearts', aren't they?!! Any chance that came along for Ben to throw John under the bus, he grabbed it with both hands but didn't have the disco balls to say it to his face. And he really disliked that he wasn't very good at getting Josie to submit to his will!
"Ben was jealous of Josie & Johns relationship, he probably knew that Josie was liked by the public, so wanted to be the one around her, so he would gain support. John stopped him from doing that, so he moved onto Rachael 1 and Rachel 2, then Laura, then Jo. He caused a will they won't they with Mario, early on, he tried it on a bit with Corin, so he wanted to be in the limelight and still probably does." (mamajean)
"Oh I figured Ben out from day 1 it was the only thing I disagreed with with John. When he said Corin was the most fake person in the house. Up until he left anyway, Ben was by far the most fake person in there. His hugs, kisses, telling everyone they looked amaaazing all the time and his bull $hit compliments he gave were just the most condescending load of crap ever." (cazb1986)
"Ben was smart enough to realise that the public would be interested in the budding romance so he tried on numerous occasion to make negative comments about one of them to the other. Like telling John he followed Josie about like a lap dog and saying that Josie wore inappropriate clothing for her shape. We know that it was this last comment that led to his downfall." (Jackie McGlynn)
CORIN: Like, like, screech, squawk, like, like
IFE: I put my bandana around the model, moan, moan, Terry, I'm not washing that hoodie on principal, moan, moan, moan
Ben realises that what's he's saying is horrible about someone he once highly regarded and adored as a friend.
BEN: (back on his broomstick) But he's pushed me to such a degree that.. although Nathan will always give me schtick, it's not personalised schtick. Nathan is telling me off or having a go at me over something he thinks is wrong - and that's that. And I can respect that.
He might not agree but has this level of regard for Nathan but with John, Ben considers the onslaught he receives to be a campaign. If John goes tomorrow, Ben will be glad to have peace and quiet instead of 'someone being a d*ck to me the whole time' but doesn't think John will go.
DAVE: I think for the group (he really means for his belly), it will be better if John goes .. you know cos Nathan does all the cooking..
BEN: Nathan also isn't particularly partisan, he has a go at individuals.
Dave also believes that while John's still there that there's an opportunity for division.
BEN: (Holy panty dropper! Forgive the boy for having a best friend! GEE!!) Well he takes Josie off!
"Ben was jealous of Josie & Johns relationship, he probably knew that Josie was liked by the public, so wanted to be the one around her, so he would gain support. John stopped him from doing that, so he moved onto Rachael 1 and Rachel 2, then Laura, then Jo. He caused a will they won't they with Mario, early on, he tried it on a bit with Corin, so he wanted to be in the limelight and still probably does." (mamajean)
"Oh I figured Ben out from day 1 it was the only thing I disagreed with with John. When he said Corin was the most fake person in the house. Up until he left anyway, Ben was by far the most fake person in there. His hugs, kisses, telling everyone they looked amaaazing all the time and his bull $hit compliments he gave were just the most condescending load of crap ever." (cazb1986)
"Ben was smart enough to realise that the public would be interested in the budding romance so he tried on numerous occasion to make negative comments about one of them to the other. Like telling John he followed Josie about like a lap dog and saying that Josie wore inappropriate clothing for her shape. We know that it was this last comment that led to his downfall." (Jackie McGlynn)
James' description - 'It's the night before the John James vs. Nathan eviction and John James wants to know if Josie thinks he'll be evicted. She's reluctant to tell him, but eventually admits she's convinced herself that he'll be leaving. However, she does reassure him that she thinks there's lots of reasons people would keep him in. To me, she's clearly indicating she'd prefer him to stay than Nathan. John James says it's never occurred to him that it's possible he'd stay.
Also in the clip, Corin makes a not-too-subtle jab at John James to Steve. This is pre-Nathan's eviction where it was common for her to backstab John James, once John James survives the public vote and gets cheered, she miraculously stops doing that. Wonder why?'
The alarm is ringing in the bedroom; Josie doesn't understand what BB want them to do. (Not take naps soooo early at night and give the watchers some entertainment, presumes I!) Cuuuuutting to the garden where Cozza is making cutting comments about John arguing and not pulling his weight around the house; Steve can't conceive why anyone wouldn't as there's not much else to do.
Corin complains that those who aren't occupied in arguments most of the day, have to try and stay busy. Because of the sh*t weather the past couple of days, people have been in different rooms but come out together when the sun shines as it totally changes the mood of the house - they can then sunbathe and get rounders going.
He'd never really thought about it and just assumed it was a clear cut conclusion; Josie thinks it depends on what has been shown. John has a lack of faith that it wouldn't matter and yawns that from where he's sitting, it's a clear cut conclusion. 'I don't think there's any ifs or buts or maybes about it.'
JOSIE: Depends on what they've shown, cos you don't see Nathan in the Diary room asking for peoples' cases back, you don't see Nathan in the Diary room doing the stuff you do.. like.. (strokes her own armpit) It depends. But then they might see him cooking all the dinners and that.
John is well prepared to be out; Josie tells John that Nathan's not funny and asks if he's starting to get a bit panicky now.
JOHN: (Awww he's just huggable) Me? Yeah.. but panicky about staying.
JOSIE: What, you wanna go?
He doesn't but he's never thought about staying, not once and he's being honest 'I'm not one of those people who would say that so people feel sorry for 'em.. cos I would say that in front of the group.' But when people tell him they think he'll stay it takes him aback as he's not ready for that (to stay) obviously he will and that's what he wants but it's just not crossed his mind.
His mind set is not in a negative way that he'll prepare for the worst, he just really does envisage being evicted. He is expecting to go and to get the worst reception that anyone has had so far. These are things he honestly feels will happen but he believes part of Govan didn't think he was leaving, although he'd never actually said anything. 'He thought that there was a chance that he could go.. but not really. Me, I can't see how I would stay.'
Nathan didn't scream sexy with his caveman brow ridge, he was creepy and gross and iron-handed and a whole stack of other characteristics which I found distasteful. The fact that so many were unwavering that John would be the one to be out, made the result that much sweeter. P to the S - 89% delivered his fate and I cracked open the victory Vienetta (and it was divine)! It was only the greatest thing to happen in BB voting history EVER and a big iconic moment in the series.
"John was useless at his predictions wasn't he, thought he was going every time, silly boy. Ha ha." (sybres25)
"O god I remember checking all the betting websites before that eviction :( was about 89% sure John James would be safe but was still sick with worry. Lotta glory on 89% gotta be said (not Mr 89% though)" (cait1189)
Ife thanks John for saying she has come into play as has Mario; Josie strokes his arm, beaming up at him 'you're alright John!' John clues in Josie that the whole house has got a lot more serious in the last two weeks and an eavesdropping Ife agrees that it definitely has.
JOHN: I don't think that it's just me. I believe that I haven't really changed that much.
Josie judges they need a few more jokers in there; John knows that they do massively! This is what he means he doesn't feel he has changed that much between the first two and last two weeks. 'Even Benny and Dave like.. like when they're like do I wanna come in the snug for a chat, I'm like "what for?" So I can talk about.. everything's about World Wars and that.'
He'll get into the discussions on team play once he's into it but doesn't really care now, he knows Ben's views on it, doesn't agree with them so will leave them at that.
JOHN: (dude has given up arguing with the crazy person) And what was that other f**king argument about? F**king politics about f**king English Government not giving enough money to.. I'm like alright quick 5 minute chat, over and done with. I don't care about sacking gardeners and f**king sh*t like that. (SC)
Ife does care about it, she just doesn't want to talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah that's what John means.
JOHN: It'll get me angry.. I can go on about that team play thing for f**king six months straight. But I know his opinions and he's entitled to 'em - just drop it like.
John starts to question why she thinks that, when Ife intrudes with her own thoughts that Josie does care on the outside, and that she shouldn't pretend because she told Ife about the charity work she wants to do.
Josie was there for the party not to get bogged down by conversations that were boring to her, or to take the game seriously. She didn't want to spend every minute of every day in the house dissecting every person's every move - those who did drove her temporarily insane!!! I suspect she'd rather set herself on fire than get caught up in this activity.. and they still wouldn't notice!
Was John coming round to his baby bear's way of thinking because he realised she was right? Or could it be because he believed they didn't have much time left together and didn't want to waste it?Or maybe it was even for the reason that he knew Josie didn't like it and would have hated to drive her away from him. He knew that he could make use of the Diary room as a safe space to have his ventings, if needed.
"You know why you don't care anymore John, because you're starting to fall in love with Josie. That's the reason hahaha.." (24mahal)
"Agree with you 24mahal, John stopped listening to convos other people had, when he realised he felt serious about Josie, he had tried to ignore his feelings cos he thought Josie had no interest in him." (mamajean)
"I think that Josie had her priorities right, she cared about things that really mattered - like charities - and still does, John just liked to voice his opinions about everything lol, think he was a bit of a lost soul until he met her." (marju771)
After Nathan recites some of the lyrics from Dizzey Rascals's song Bonkers, John utters the title line. Ife can't believe Josie is sitting (well laying) there putting her hands up saying she's not very intelligent.
JOSIE: Yeah, it's a lack of intelligence I think..
JOHN: I would have to agree with..
IFE: (chides Josie and talk blocking others as always) Why do you speak about yourself like that?
JOHN: (the way it's written makes it sound douchey but he wasn't) Cos she's not smart enough to realise!
Even on the outside world, Josie is the last one to work things out and was a lot slower at school. Ife explains that doesn't mean it is a lack of intelligence that's how Josie is 'why would you ever say that to yourself?' John grins, Josie elaborates that it's always taken her longer for things to sink in 'but once they're there, they're there.'
John doesn't think it is lack of intelligence .. then says it could be or she just doesn't care. Ife doesn't understand why she'd say that with all her brothers and sisters watching her, looking up to her and wanting to see her as strong.
JOSIE: (laughs it up) That's cos I'm a mad cow.. I am a nutter. That's why I'm beginning to think, maybe it is a lack of intelligence (Ife insists it isn't!) because people care about stuff that's not even f**king crossed me mind.
IFE: It's in the eye of the beholder. So don't think that ever, because it's not that! (John doesn't know and he and Jose sniggle) It's far from that! (with a charming smile, she requests that one of them collect the other glasses from the bedroom before going)
John thinks it's because she's probably very.. (changes train of thought) see in his opinion what else is there to talk about as they haven't got much to worry about in there really (Josie describes herself as a daydreamer) 'but I haven't got much to worry about at home. Whereas your life is probably full on at home (she agrees it is) yeah mine isn't.. mine is exactly like this, mine is less than this.'
JOHN: So that's where we're different because on the outside world I've got this.. but without the hassles of having to worry about eating chickpeas and that! Whereas, you even if you lived off chickpeas and like water.. you're probably still living a more relaxed life to what you're living right now.. so you probably still consider it to be better.
Ife could be a doll face when she wasn't going on and on and on and onnnnnnnn, plus she's right it wasn't a lack of intelligence on Josie's part. She could be very switched on when it came to people like Sam and Caoimhe (it took John longer to see them for who they truly were) for others it was more her naivety and preferring to see the best in people, so some things would never have occurred to her.
Both of their lives changed after BB and Josie's is different again now with celeb life and Luke but has John's gone almost exactly back to normal? They had to learn on the job, how to work the industry and who they can trust.. Will Josie keep going with it as long as the pay cheques keep coming or is it all a bit too American Psycho for her to continue much longer?
"Ife is spot on, she is 100% right. Josie is not stupid only she is not the worrying type because she knows that life is too short to think that much. Love her. Thanks a lot James, love all your videos." (24mahal)
"I liked Ife so much she was really clever and astute. Josie was very intelligent just laid back and not too analytical, just saw BB as bit of a holiday lol. It takes some people longer to assimilate stuff but once they do it's there permanently, in fact she was that clever that she saw everybody off and won BB." (marju771)
"You're right @marju771 she won because she has everything beauty, brain, strong personality etc etc." (24mahal)
Ben is with Caoimhe is his club house speaking about a guy (whose name is not mentioned in the part we are shown but it's likely to be John) who would not have thrown the challenge. Josie wants to try something of John's on but he's on a roll with the Corin criticising, quoting the Rock that she needs to 'know her role' and 'shut your mouth!'
MARIO: (laughingly) And what is her role?
Josie gives John a look showing how unimpressed she is but he back answers that she can't have his jumper and to f**k off!
JOHN: (not loving Corin) I'm loving it, me.. I'm loving it, me.. I'm loving it, me.
JOSIE: Suuuch a tosser! Well what can I have then? Let's sort it out.
JOHN: (as gruff-voiced Movie commentator man) The woman who blinks 438 times per second! I'm loving it, me. I'm loving it, are you loving it? (Mario is trying to cut him off) I'm buzzing me, I'm buzzing.
Josie reminds John that he fancied Corin when they first got in there anyway. Must have been deliriously exhausted from jet lag that first week or so to have found her in any way the most fanciable female!!
JOHN: (Corin's the one he's most interested in strangling) Oh yeah until she f**king (motions with his hand how she runs her mouth off) it's just like this meh, meh, meh, meh (on repeat)
As shown on HL's I'll skip ahead slightly but Josie also tries to stop him as they get the picture, eventually she shouts for him to shut up 3 times as he just won't let up.
JOHN: (if it was not already apparent, the culprit of twisting John's knickers that evening is CORIN!) It's annoying though, isn't it? (Josie starts to speak) What's up?
JOHN: (Josie wasn't picking up his emotional tab here when he wanted to release) Ah (tuts) f**king.. nothing! You get nothing, just shut the f**k up and let me pack my sh*t up and see what I want.
Mario intends to keep the hoody John's been letting him wear (when he says keep - he means he'll give it back to John when he's out) but John is reluctant to have Mario keep it because he wants it himself, so allows him to have another instead. Josie is granted permission to hold on to his black hoody and John settles with Mario that if he gives him his clothes it means he doesn't want them anymore.
He picks up a hoody which he consents for Mario to own, 'she can have the black one cos it's f**ked up anyway.' Josie smart-arsedly thanks him as she cuddles into Mario's chest and sucks her thumb. There's another light grey one floating around somewhere that Mario entreats John to find for him.
JOHN: (snippy) OH! I'll f**king find it for you as well (!) I'll f**king do everything. Who's this pr*ck?
MARIO: (condescends) Thanks John, fold it up at the end of my bed. There's a good boy!
(SC) drowning out some of Corin's acutely clangorous tonality as she relates what she had seen for Dave's anniversary dinner in the Diary room. She swears they're going to get alcohol as she'd heard someone in the store room 'the day's finally looking up!' Mario deliberately asks how she feels about it - 'MINT' is the grating feedback. Once she has gone, Mario consults John on what the matter is as he can see him exhale heavily in the walk in closet space.
JOSIE: (whispers into Mario's ear) He's just sexually frustrated I think, cos he had a snuggle up with the Josester.
JOHN: That does not get the better of me.
Mario has presumptuous plans to sort that out with John in bed tonight by giving him a little kiss (SC) He's not accepting no as an answer and if John can't find the hoody he's just going to take John's grey one. John's having difficulty rounding up his clothing as there's so much sh*t everywhere including flies buzzing over his top!
John folds his towel, he was going to wash but then thought 'f**k it' he can't be bothered. Mario cheeks that if he's going to, for John to wash his jeans while he's at it. He has a sniff of the towel and it's hummin' real bad so he leaves to go and put it outside to get some fresh air. Josie worries that she looks like such a whore as she has a different man in her bed every minute.
MARIO: But we all enjoy it!
"I knew it John did fancy Corin when he first came into the house, until she started to annoy him. No wonder Josie got confused and played it safe what with him having an apparent interest in at least 3 of the girls - Corin, Sunshine and Keeva." (marju771)
"John never flirted with any of them they way he did with Josie. Just been watching clips of the first few days in the house. Rachael1 and Corin were round him like flies at every opportunity." (Sybres25)
"Was John's suitcase twice as big as everyone else's? - He seemed to clothe half the house at one time or another - and supply all the hats! And why someone didn't gag Corin, I'll never know!" (Bran84)
Mario intends to keep the hoody John's been letting him wear (when he says keep - he means he'll give it back to John when he's out) but John is reluctant to have Mario keep it because he wants it himself, so allows him to have another instead. Josie is granted permission to hold on to his black hoody and John settles with Mario that if he gives him his clothes it means he doesn't want them anymore.
He picks up a hoody which he consents for Mario to own, 'she can have the black one cos it's f**ked up anyway.' Josie smart-arsedly thanks him as she cuddles into Mario's chest and sucks her thumb. There's another light grey one floating around somewhere that Mario entreats John to find for him.
JOHN: (snippy) OH! I'll f**king find it for you as well (!) I'll f**king do everything. Who's this pr*ck?
MARIO: (condescends) Thanks John, fold it up at the end of my bed. There's a good boy!
(SC) drowning out some of Corin's acutely clangorous tonality as she relates what she had seen for Dave's anniversary dinner in the Diary room. She swears they're going to get alcohol as she'd heard someone in the store room 'the day's finally looking up!' Mario deliberately asks how she feels about it - 'MINT' is the grating feedback. Once she has gone, Mario consults John on what the matter is as he can see him exhale heavily in the walk in closet space.
JOSIE: (whispers into Mario's ear) He's just sexually frustrated I think, cos he had a snuggle up with the Josester.
JOHN: That does not get the better of me.
John folds his towel, he was going to wash but then thought 'f**k it' he can't be bothered. Mario cheeks that if he's going to, for John to wash his jeans while he's at it. He has a sniff of the towel and it's hummin' real bad so he leaves to go and put it outside to get some fresh air. Josie worries that she looks like such a whore as she has a different man in her bed every minute.
MARIO: But we all enjoy it!
"I knew it John did fancy Corin when he first came into the house, until she started to annoy him. No wonder Josie got confused and played it safe what with him having an apparent interest in at least 3 of the girls - Corin, Sunshine and Keeva." (marju771)
"John never flirted with any of them they way he did with Josie. Just been watching clips of the first few days in the house. Rachael1 and Corin were round him like flies at every opportunity." (Sybres25)
"Was John's suitcase twice as big as everyone else's? - He seemed to clothe half the house at one time or another - and supply all the hats! And why someone didn't gag Corin, I'll never know!" (Bran84)
I think here John just needed to bury his head in the safety of Josie's bosom and for them to hold each other, making everything okay.. as he did not want to leave her but concluded that his time with her would terminate the next day. Sometimes they could be a little crappy as friends to each other and not be very sensitive to the situations they were suffering through, not identifying their cries for help..So they'd get all mopey-faced until one would throw the other a bone.
They never managed to keep each other at arm's length for very long (think Crab eyes gate was the longest period) but they could survive most everything in the house. Truth is, there wasn't a single person in the house, who could have filled the giant crater in their hearts when they weren't speaking.. maybe there still isn't but they've learned to adapt and carry on.. carrying on.
JOSIE: (really doesn't like her feelings) I like him to have a snuggle up with and all that but he's such a moaning Minnie!
MARIO: So love's not on the cards between you two?
JOSIE: (feel free to disregard this dismissal considering what happened later in the series between them) No.
MARIO: What if John said to you 'it's my last night in here, can we snog?' What would you say?
JOSIE: (deliberating carefully) Ummmmm.. yeah I would snog him. It's only a snog, in't it? (fixing her earring)
Ben and Caoimhe cut their chat short as Keevil mimics Corin's buzzing; she feels bad as she's wearing Josie's uggs and used to all the time during the first few weeks (even though she didn't really speak to Josie then) Josie doesn't care as she's not like that and Caoimhe can have any-ting :D
They were damn lucky to have such a magnificent partner in their lives for a short space of time and were a small miracle.. Despite everything that went wrong between them, I say to them from the heart a tremendous thank you, from all the people you touched with your relationship and by being yourselves. Many of us may be loopy but it's only because we care and hate that things turned POOPY :( I hope that neither of you are filled with dark regrets as Josie tweeted 'it's never too late' for 'hate to subside' and friendships to repair. 'Maybe I'm just dreaming out loud' but 'come home, come home (John) (we've) been waiting for you, so long, so long' ...
"Wish Mario had told John that Josie was up for a snog, maybe he did and John was planning to kiss her if he got evicted. I'm glad we didn't have to find out. Surely he would have done something to tell her of his true feelings before he left after all Nathan would have stayed and he wouldn't want to chance her being with Nathan or whatever newbies came in." (Jackie McGlynn)
James' description of the video clip: "Well, this clip is either one of two things, either John James has gone to the garden to be by himself as his nerves start to show in anticipation of the following night's eviction or he's become as irritated as I am by that horrendous singing of Corin's in the background. No one person should be allowed to be that annoying."
After the cameras cut away from the kitchen aptly depicted by James, the sound is cut and John paces back and forth along the pool area. After the first 30 seconds or so the noise is back, John can be heard inhaling the evening air to fill his lungs. Poor pup, had no clue that there was no need to stress as he wasn't going anywhere! He didn't know what would be behind that BB door waiting for him.. but weren't we all the happiest donuts when Nathan went and our Johnny James survived??? :D
"He may be doing a number of things out in the garden, okay, he may be sick & tired of Corin and her singing noise, he may be looking at his surroundings just in case he goes, he may be thinking about if Nathan stays he will try to get with Josie, or the reason I think is, he knows he has got strong feelings for Josie but he's not sure what to do about it. He is pacing about with something on his mind, will he lose the girl he may have fell in love with, it's only night 30 , so he doesn't know if she feels anything for him." (Mamajean)
"Agree with you again mamajean. Do you think he considered telling her or do you think he was so convinced she didn't fancy him that he was prepared just to walk away and get on with his life? I like to believe that he would have been there waiting for her after watching the footage and realising that she was indeed the love of his life." (Jackie McGlynn)
"I think Jackiebunny, John was trying to think of a way to express to Josie his feelings, but the problem was how. He knew she would not understand his subtle hints, cos he had given her the vibes, but she hadn't picked up on them, (cos we know she didn't think she had a chance with him ) he would have had to tell her direct. The problem there was he may get hurt his-self if she didn't feel the same way. I think he would have told her when they were both out of the house, but the risk (from his point of view) was that she may have got together with Nathan, or even any potential new guy housemates, after his possible eviction. John knew Josie was loyal and a one man woman, so to him he may have missed the boat with her. He had developed strong feelings for her, but didn't know for sure, until he got out of the house. That is the reason for this clip of contemplation, my view anyway." (Mamajean)
James' description: “John James and Keeva speak in the garden about how frustrated they are with Corin and Dave. They think that Corin's lovin' it, oh my god, buzzin' talk is nothing but an act (I totally agree). They think Dave refusing to give his opinions on things like gay marriage is just him trying to hide from the public, what he really thinks. They don't think there's much point in being on the show if you're going to hide your true beliefs. I know most people hate Keeva, but she's making a lot of sense here.”
JOHN: (the doomsday device detonates) You don't have to tell me every f**king 5 minutes, that you're lovin' living off birdseed and you're buzzin' cos we got no hot water. You don't have to.. you don't have to f**king p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining. I'm all up for being happy, don't get me wrong (Caoimhe too) I'm a happy man! (forces a scary over the top smile)
He appraises that it's obviously Corin's way of dealing with the pressure because she was f**ked off when they didn't have tobacco, but she was 'lovin' it OMG! I love having no tobacco, me.' But when they got it, she'd been the first person puffing away like the magic dragon as soon as it came.
JOHN: (sounding off to Keevs) F**king smoking banana leaves and cherry ripes and everything you could f**king find on the f**king street! So don't give me that sh*t, that you're f**king happy about having no tobacco and you're lovin' it - cos you're f**king pretty much smoking the f**king plastic grass! So how much were you really lovin' it? You weren't f**king lovin' it. You're talking sh*t.
Caoimhe is figuratively so far up his backside with all the exaggerated hohoho-ing at his comments, that teeth marks would have been left on his heiney! John has more truth bullets to shoot at her such as Dave determining that being real doesn't mean that you have to have a negative attitude. Keevil classes this as bullsh*t as well but mm's along with John as he'd told Dave that to be real you could be positive too.
JOHN: Because I've come in here to be real and express my views if they've asked.
The worst thing about it to Caoimhe is that Dave has said he never challenged her on herself and Shabby, making thrusting and grinding noises in the bed every night - which he had not approved of. She reprehended that it was a completely different thing; Dave had also brought up how he didn't like it when the talk turned to a sexual nature as he feels uncomfortable. She was frustrated with his double standards as he goes on about how he's missing banging his wife.. he hadn't used what she calls this terrible word but you get the drift.
John starts to discuss 'Josie just said to me then' but then changes track that quite frankly he's disappointed not to be there when the intruders come in 'but as the house stands right now' shrugs 'they can pretty much jam it!' A lot of people are starting to f**k him off to the point where he's just going to explode anyway and be ejected from the house. He thinks the house will get better when the intruders come in (Caoimhe hopes so) so he's a bit disappointed for that reason .. but other than that he's getting to the point where he's going to unleash on f**king anyone.
She's so grateful to John for throwing the task but knows they each would have been happy either way; she's hoping that's the case anyway as she thinks they both have the same opinions on the house and blah, blah, blah. When certain people don't answer something as they don't want to come across a certain way, he wonders why they've come here then. It p*sses Caoimhe right off - he makes exactly her point that if they are such a private person 'why have you come on the most public show on the planet?'
JOHN: (the hornet's nest has been stirred) This is the most public, non-private house! That's the whole design of the house; they watch us p*ss for f**ks sake! We get no privacy whatsoever.. so if you're worried about what they think out there or what people think in here - don't come on the show! To a certain point. Fair enough if you don't want to bring in family like your sister or your Mum, or you don't wanna mention names .. because that's not you that you're getting in trouble.
He doesn't consider it to be fair as those people haven't applied to the show, so he respects that. If he is quizzed about something and doesn't answer it's because he just generally doesn't give a f**k about it but not as he's afraid of what anyone would think. He would tell anyone his views outside on the street if he were holding an 'I love Jesus' sign so doesn't see the difference being in there.
Caoimhe doesn't get why Dave would bring Hitler having demons in to a normal conversation they'd been having again. John puts it down to being Dave's way of describing a bad person because he's religious; Caoimhe had felt Dave was almost justifying Hitler doing all those things as he had the devil in him. John didn't even look at it that way and heads inside for dinner.
"John really liked and respected Dave, although he may not have agreed with everything he said they were good friends in the end. Keeva on the other hand brought a whole nasty negative vibe to the house, things nearly did blow up with her antics, and she upset a lot of people including Josie - was that being her real self, if so, she pretty much hanged herself, glad she walked as I thought she brought out the worst in JJ. She really didn't have a clue i.e. wasn't that smart as everyone saw through her in the end, but then BB wouldn't have been so entertaining so I suppose she did serve a purpose." (marju771)
"I think Keevil didnt have any kind of opinion of any relevance, she only ever agreed with everything John said to get closer to him, period. She bitched about people, when she was with Shabby, she even bitched about John James, but when Shabbs left, she stayed around Josie, because of John. The rest is history." (mamajean)
"John got it wrong in my opinion. I think that Keeva was the arrogant one about her looks and not so much Rachael 1. I believe that Keeva thought that she was the cats pyjamas and after the limelight came off her when Shabby left she set her sights on John. After all it was him she had picked in the lighter game. I'm sure Keeva thought that it would be easy to separate John and Josie but she underestimated the strong bond that was already there. I couldn't understand why all the boys thought she was sexy. My old hold in pants are sexier. She used John and he really got sucked into her constant bitching. Thank god our Josie stood up for what she wanted. (or should I say who)" (Jackie McGlynn)
"In this clip Keevil is so yes yes yes John, and laughing at his every comment, I could not understand John falling for it. He must have been used to girls back home doing the same thing to get his attention, so I cannot understand why he didn't pick up on it with her. Josie was completely opposite, and genuine, she listened to his views and still had her own and told him so." (mamajean)
JOSIE: Nathan, is there pork in this? I can taste pork.
For your culinary dining pleasure, a topless Nathan and Steve serve a bland looking dinner and Dave belches twice. "It was the most beautiful curry I've eaten in my life" (served one in Diary room as an 18th wedding anniversary treat)
10.29pm, Josie
asks John to get a football kit from the diary room.
10.56pm, John proclaims that he doesn't fart and Josie is horrified to find Govan, the giraffe has fallen down 'what are you doing on the floor,
buddy?'
11.06pm, Josie rubbing in
cocoa butter into her legs in a vain attempt to preserve her tan.
I DON'T LOOK AT JOHN AND THINK YAH I REALLY FANCY HIM BUT (James 32 video):
Starts out with John and Josie squabbling as they share a bowl of ice cream between them; John eurghs which Josie doesn't understand because she is licking her own spoon. Still he gets another from the cutlery drawer; Josie offers to scoop John out some just for him when he asks where she got it from. Ice cream sharing? My future hubster can go whistle for that!! Did John not realise that women like Josie don't just fly around like Mary Poppins on her umbrella?
JOHN: (fusspotty) Was it melted like this already? (nope) I'm only interested in melted ice cream.
JOSIE: You said that really posh then! Want some more?
He's alright and thanks her as he exits the kitchen, leaving Josie alone with Ben when she drinks back the melty liquid from the bowl. Jose can't believe Ben's still doing the washing up; his hair is doing the thing I hate.
BEN: (gets what's happening here with Josie's feelings) Well I take my time but look at what a good job I do! You're going to be devastated if he goes, aren't you? I don't think it will happen but..
JOSIE: (don't fib you think he's a hottie with a body!!) Who John? .. Yeah.. yeah cos he makes the days go faster.. I don't.. look at John and think 'oh yeahhh!'.. I don't look at John and think 'oh yeah, I really fancy him' but.. I do enjoy having a flirt with him.
BEN: Oh yeah, why not?
JOSIE: Cos he's playful, like me.
BEN: (sounds sincere) He likes you, he really likes you.
Josie's f**king hair is really getting on her nerves now, she ties it tighter and returns her washed bowl to the cupboard.
"Ben was always jealous of JJJ's relationship, he knew that they were closer than any of the other HMs and later on bitched about them. I expect that maybe deep down he liked Josie a lot and knew she wasn't interested in him like that as some of the other female HM were taken in by his player ways." (Marju771)
"John always reminded me a little boy in that sweatshirt. It made him look scrawny and didnt show of his build very well but like most of you I still loved him." (Jackie McGlynn)
"Ben knew that John fancied Josie, and maybe deep down he fancied her as well. What a cheek. They're cute sharing an ice cream. Love them. Thanks a lot James." (24mahal)
Starts out with John and Josie squabbling as they share a bowl of ice cream between them; John eurghs which Josie doesn't understand because she is licking her own spoon. Still he gets another from the cutlery drawer; Josie offers to scoop John out some just for him when he asks where she got it from. Ice cream sharing? My future hubster can go whistle for that!! Did John not realise that women like Josie don't just fly around like Mary Poppins on her umbrella?
JOSIE: You said that really posh then! Want some more?
He's alright and thanks her as he exits the kitchen, leaving Josie alone with Ben when she drinks back the melty liquid from the bowl. Jose can't believe Ben's still doing the washing up; his hair is doing the thing I hate.
BEN: (gets what's happening here with Josie's feelings) Well I take my time but look at what a good job I do! You're going to be devastated if he goes, aren't you? I don't think it will happen but..
JOSIE: (don't fib you think he's a hottie with a body!!) Who John? .. Yeah.. yeah cos he makes the days go faster.. I don't.. look at John and think 'oh yeahhh!'.. I don't look at John and think 'oh yeah, I really fancy him' but.. I do enjoy having a flirt with him.
BEN: Oh yeah, why not?
JOSIE: Cos he's playful, like me.
BEN: (sounds sincere) He likes you, he really likes you.
Josie's f**king hair is really getting on her nerves now, she ties it tighter and returns her washed bowl to the cupboard.
"John always reminded me a little boy in that sweatshirt. It made him look scrawny and didnt show of his build very well but like most of you I still loved him." (Jackie McGlynn)
"Ben knew that John fancied Josie, and maybe deep down he fancied her as well. What a cheek. They're cute sharing an ice cream. Love them. Thanks a lot James." (24mahal)
Because of the Aussie Adonis, hope had returned to Josie's heart.. of course she'd have been depressed (it bordering on tragic) to lose her right hand man, had he been evicted. She plays it cool by putting on a brave face, hiding behind her smile and cracking jokes but deep down she knew there's nothing good about a bye. Though sometimes, wonderful things come out of horrible situations, as it did here.. you hear stories about these sort of events happening but Josie never thought it would happen for her. A matter of days afterwards, JJJ wanted to spend their every waking minute together, following each other around like lovesick teens - yet not realising they were in love.
11.12pm, John is
at his hairdressing best again, this time trimming Ife's...uh flowing
locks. Josie thinks the bible was written by a business man.
11.17pm, Ben
talking about needing 'mental stimulation' to Josie. BEN: People like
to talk to about the same things over and over again. John James
called to the Diary Room.
BEN: "The
thing about <housemate> is that they are <amazing
compliment> but <devastating insult>, you know? And
<housemate> can back me up on this."
11.22pm, Corin
wants Nathan to stay *dials* CORIN: If Nathan goes
this week and I go next week it will be so negative in here. *dials*
11.31pm, CORIN:
"I can't imagine what they'd show of me, I do nothing. I just
smoke all day." Corin the non-entity spots that she's a
non-entity without actually spotting that she's a non-entity. Mario
says Ife resembles Jada Pinkett; she's Ife's favourite!
11.47pm, Keeva
says if John goes this week then for sure she will be out the next.
Dave tells Caoimhe that she's managed to be herself, not to be a suck
arse (mirroring) Josie says she doesn't think there are any
suckarses in the house, Caoimhe almost chokes.
JOSIE: "I
don't know whether I'm being obliviarse or what......"
John nearly
wounded himself on the way out of the DR and tells Ife that her hair is 'awesome!'
DAY 30 (Milliexx) and JOHN DON'T PLEASE DON'T COS IT'S GONNA BREAK (James 32 video):
Caoimhe has some deep issues that she's confronting with the song that's sang in the mornings 'you don't understand the little ball of anger that twists around in my..' John dunks a hand in the pool to test the temperature and finds it to his satisfaction 'ah, that's well nice in there, innit?' Dave drives him to jump in wearing only his pants but John opts for twiddling with Josie's tresses instead; her hair must be nice to caress.
JOSIE: (she's not sure she likes loving it) Why do you always like messing up my hair, John James? (can't hear his teasing reply) No, you always pull my earrings out as well!
JOHN: (wants to smoke some of her cig) Give me a bit of that, give me a bit of that.
JOSIE: (reluctantly) Go on have it, and smoke yourself to death (!)
John giggles 'go and play with the traffic' as he has a drag on her fag. The piece of garbage, lipstick on a pig, furry sheep jumper wearer har-de-hars at everything they do in order to ingratiate herself further into their exclusive club. I wonder how John and Josie's asses taste as Caoimhe certainly munched on it enough!!
JOSIE: That's all I say to John 'jog on, John', 'go and play with the traffic!'
John's inept at taking a puff so is after instructions but the jokey smokey Joe at the bench tells him he should be seen and not heard. Josie worries what John's Mum may think of her giving him a smoke and that Helena will be cursing her name. Caoimhe demos how to hold the cigarella between his 2 fingers; meanwhile Ben speaks with Steve about how Dave's wife leaving him a message probably unsettled him a little. As whilst he loves Dave, like they all do and were really happy for him, on the other hand he's thinking it would have been nice if it were his wife. Steve concedes this is true (SC)
The carcinogens infiltrate John's airways, polluting his lungs and he coughs up acutely 'I'm gonna die!' (SC)
DAVE: (best one liner in the house award winner?) You are a couple vouchers short of a free toastie, you are mate!
JOSIE: I'm just worried about what John James' Mum is calling me right now, after giving him that roll up.
JOHN: (everything he says sounds really creepy when doing his malodorous Mum mimicking) She'll go 'is that, that b*tch who went in the Diary room and said that my son has paranoia and he's got deeper issues beyond the house and now's given him (SC)
Josie doesn't think his Mum would be angry with her and that she'd actually like her. John agrees that she'd probably know exactly where Josie is coming from and would be sat watching vocalising that concordance. Josie confesses to doing a little impression in the Diary room, Caoimhe takes this to mean of her until she's told it was of John. Mario did one to John's face!
JOSIE: (shows him how mischievous she is) I went into the Diary room, they went 'how do you feel about John James?' I went 'what, John James?' 'Jose, Jose, Jose, do you know what it is yet?' (widger waggling, they all laughed.. it was a thing.. BOOM!)
He toys with her, tipping the deck chair she's sat on as high as he can with his beautiful, strong arms, while she smokes. She struggles to stop him as she calls out 'John don't! Please, don't! Cos it's gonna break!! John don't be a w*nker!' She catches him feasting his eyes on her undercarriage, as such voices her displeasure and for him not to stare at her tuppence! Oooooooh he's perverse and if that's not a symbol of true love, I don't know what is :D
"Oh my Jesus. Ben is so boring. He says what could be said in 10 words, in 2000." (Musikgal13)
"That was hilarious tears in my eyes from Jose's impression." (marhearsyou)
I loveddddd their John and Josie back and forth as you could tell it's totally affectionate; all is not right in Whosville without it. Second chances don't expire, so when is this awfulness gonna be resolved? Or am I kidding myself that it ever could be?3000 YEARS OF watching rom coms, is it all just a big freakin' fib??
Did John's Mum see where Josie was coming from in her statements about his paranoia? Or did she never feel Josie was perfect enough for her precious son (as not only was he Helena's only offspring, he was all she had)? Are they savouring the good life now that they aren't in each others lives?Without being as cheesy as Edam, if they're not already I hope they will be soon because they deserve love.. the kind that makes you see through time and space. That's the exquisite love that they had if only for a minute and it should not be wasted on someone that is not your soul mate. It would be a shame if they were left so emotionally traumatised and scarred that they could never fully love or trust another again.
Ben knows Steve will be there til the end and that whatever little dramas he has to deal with he'll be able to cope with them. He goes to goggle Ife's completely bald head which Steve remarks is like 'a solar panel for a sex machine!' Ben's very jealous of Mario shaving Nathan's shoulders (which Seahorse deems as looking dodgy in the mirror) as Corin gave him an electric job.
Ife's 'BEAUTIFUL', 'AMAZING' shaved scalp is given the seal of approval from Ben who has warm enough hands to be sanctioned to feel her sponge-like skull! He kisses her on each cheek in a very stately manner and she explains that John shaved a bit, then Nathan a lot, even Caoimhe did some but Nathan finished nipping it with the razor. It didn't hurt as he hadn't cut her once!
BEN: Doesn't Ife look fantastic?
He never thought he'd find a bald woman attractive and that it would be weird but she only thinks it would be weird to have sex with it. That would be the creme de la creepy! Quiffy returns to Steve exclaiming how he and his wife must look amazing hitting the town with their newly shaven heads. They observe that the Monk is as happy as Larry and 'to use Corin's term "buzzin" to be in the pool.
Steve doesn't blame him and feels it's really, really nice for him; as Ben and he know Dave gives so much fun, warmth and happiness to everyone. Errrr he needs to step off the crazy bus as Caoimhe finds Dave about as much fun as a fart in a lift!!
JOHN: Not really, no. I just said we had different views and I didn't appreciate the way you looked down on Sunshine. I stuck up for Sunshine a lot when she was here. I might have been a pr*ck to her out here, but in that Diary room .. I stuck up for Sunshine a lot. Everything I said about her inside that Diary room was positive.
Caoimhe asks what Rachael had been like with Sunshine; he replies that she'd kept 'giving her the "you-look-like-you-come-from-Mars look!" Josie laughs 'but we all did that, John.' He admits to doing so towards the end because he was starting to think she probably did come from Mars but in the beginning he feels as though Rachael.. 'oh I dunno.. I don't really care.. there's no point crying over spilt mil.. like you make judgments in here, you get em wrong. Everyone's done it I think.. everybody in here has probably misjudged someone in some shape or form, you know? Whether it's been good or bad.'
He rambles on that they may have regarded someone as good in some aspects then realised they were bad and the same in reverse. 'That's just the way of the house, we're all gonna make mistakes' Dave is with him all the way to the bank that it'll take a while to get a grip on it. This is why John feels bad about all his noms but.. he and Dave ridicule their excessive use of the saying 'at the end of the day.'
JOHN AND DAVE: (goofy and unburdened with wit) At the end of the day, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, at the end of the day...
John's had to go back in the Diary room to yield that he had been wrong about a person 'I thought they were this but actually I was wrong' and it's been a learning curve for him. He just has to go with what he sees at the time which is why he wouldn't blame anyone for putting him up, as they might be right or wrong - so AT THE END OF THE DAY it doesn't matter. Dave becomes conscious of his wrinkly fingers and that he should get out of the pool. (SC)
Josie had picked up on something the Dubliner hadn't which Caoimhe calls 'mad.'
JOHN: (his calculations were correct) I know that Corin isn't exactly starting the John James fan club!!
Caoimhe's ears prick up on this snippet and requests the goss on what was going on; Dave had been chatting with Corin on which way tomorrow would go and they'd each thought it would be close. BB asked for John's views and he gave his honest opinion that it would be 100% that he'd go (and he's not trying to be a negative Nancy just can't see any other way).
JOHN: I said to you, Josie.. how long ago did I say that to you? Probably over a week ago I said to you, 'I'll be up and I'll be out on this Friday.'
Dave doesn't think for one minute that it is an obvious certainty that John will be out, maintaining that the vote will be close 'and you'll get a lot of the you know.. young girl votes!'
JOHN: (notice he says that twice and it doesn't seem to be sinking in with Dave) But the thing is I've been an absolute.. pr*ck really, let's face it. (SC) I've been an absolute pr*ck.
JOHN: Yeah, no I have! I'm not gonna lie.
JOSIE: (with that wry smile) But he's a caring pr*ck!
Caoimhe endorses this as she walks away but Dave views that John's arguments have been justified in the eyes of the public, as they booted out Rachael and Sunshine off the back of it. Josie doesn't think that's the reason why but that Sunshine was evicted as she moaned about food when there are starving people in the world. Dave's logic is that his argument where he dragged Sunshine across to the pool would have gone out on Thursday and that they'd booed for her on Friday because of it.
Personally, I feel it is commendable that John recognises his own weaknesses, he never attempted to persuade that he was a floating angel in the house, sent from heaven .. in some respects he's flawless but he's not a faultless being. He is an incredibly lovely man but can definitely be a pr*ck; Josie is on point with her description that he's a 'caring pr*ck!' I think John respected Josie more for being upfront with him rather than just saying a bunch of nice stuff 24/7. He'd take a hell of a lot more on board when Josie would tell him than any other person in the house, as it was her opinion that mattered most to him.
Josie points out that Sunshine had been booed the week before but Dave is still adamant that the mob were chanting 'GET SOMEONE OUT' when in fact Josie was correct that it was Sunshine's name they were gunning for.
JOSIE: I think you're hearing things, Dave. It was Sunshine.
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