Live Day 22 Part 2

All from WHATM - Apologies that this is a lazy cheat blog mostly taken from WHATM thread rather than my own thoughts. It is just to fill you in on the rest of the live feed of this day, that we don't have video clips for, before the E4 night feed started.

BBLB - 

Jenni Trent-Hughes the behavioural psychologist had been watching to pick up HM insecurities. One of the first she noticed was Josie's thumb-sucking and worried she'd been mortified as she is unaware she is doing it. Same with Ben twirling his hair, she labels these things as security blankets and the kind of behaviour they unconsciously slip into when they feel threatened, insecure or are looking for something safe.

She has a bit of a soft spot for John James 'me and the entire female population of the world!' She didn't like what Dave had done to John James yesterday as it was quite spiteful. Because she deduces that despite John James' bravado he is quite insecure and anyone sensible can see that.    
4.37pm, JJ tells Sunshine that she's the only one left in the House who is super-aware of the cameras.

4.39pm Ben appears to be locked in a room with a tea cosy. There is a theory that no-one can sit in a room with a tea cosy without giving in to the temptation of trying it on - Ben may be the first person in the world to disprove this theory... 

"Experiment Human Nature is the name and it involves the noble, seemingly inconspicuous, yet rather iconic, tea cosy.

The housemates are being taken into a small task room one by one where they find in front of them a tea cosy. Without any prompting, Big Brother will time how long it takes for each housemate to put the cosy on their head!" (from BB website)

4.43pm Josie has gone into the nest, John sitting whistling, Sunshine looks miffed and walks off, John has now joined Josie in the nest. John doing an impression of the BB commentator, "Day 21 in the Big Brother house, John and Josie are in the snug". He's leaning on her legs, she's got his cap on. He must have touch her boob because they are laughing and John says in Marcus Bentley's voice 'at 2.45 John James' (then it cut off.SC due to adult talk!!)

4.52pm John James and Josie are bantering in the Nest. #bb11 (twitter)

5.04pm Caiomhe complaining that BB has called her when she looks like a state. Um. Love. You do know we can see you all the time, right? She ignores the tea cosy and primps her hair in the mirror then she turns round and looks under it.  Dave telling Sunshine that the only way she will go is if the public like seeing what 'those two are doing'....he then says 'I don't think the public will get what is going on in their relationship, it's weird, strange and unusual.'

5.15pm  John trying to change Josie's opinion on walkers from BB -

JOSIE: You're soo calculating,.... I can have my opinion just as much as you say your opinion all the time. 

They're talking about their opposing views on walking out - John likens it to him wanting to play for Man U - which millions of others would want to do but after playing a few games he realises it's not for him. Josie is still of the opinion you're a loser if you walk.

JOSIE: You get on my nerves so much [laughs] 

JOHN: It's because you don't like people working you out!

JOSIE: John James thinks it's fine to go round messing with peoples heads.. arguing with them all the time.

JOHN: Explain how I do it.

JOSIE :.I can't explain it in words! He tries to have a convo with you and twist it round and then get a me a bit argumentative and have a row...you love it. You get off on pushing people's button.

JOHN: Push what buttons? (recites his analogy again abut why it's wrong to lose respect for walkers) Don't over analyse everything!

JOSIE: Oh pot kettle black!! 

 "John's argument is flawed. He's comparing choosing a footballing career at Man Utd and then walking out is similar to a walker in the BB house. A career choice is a completely different ball game (forgive the pun) than wanting to be in a tv show for a limited period of time and one which is about to finish. Josie says maybe she's spending too much time with him and JJ said that maybe she is.. (WHATM)  

5.26pm Josie has just walked away from John, he raised his voice, but I wouldn't say he was shouting. Josie in bed saying she has been hanging around John too long.. oh dear she looks upset whilst talking to Caoimhe. Josie says she's going to keep her distance from John from now on; she isn't going to stoop to that level. Josie saying he is always talking about game playing but he is probably the bigger game player of them all.

5.33pm, She asks Caoimhe if she intimidates anyone in there, Caoimhe says 'God no!' Josie reckons John knew the cameras were rolling up when they were in the snug and that's when he said she was intimidating. Josie is upset because John is trying to goad her into a reaction and make her react emotionally. And Josie said she wouldn't rise to it, because only people who she cared about could upset her ...yet he succeeded in really upsetting her. 'John loves to go on about the game and i don't want to be warped into the game. Obviously people get on with people but some have favourites. We all still have to nominate but that's all he goes on about. He knows he can get me angry and he knows he won cos I am angry. Do you see how he goes to everyone and pushes their buttons?

CAOIMHE: Well he better not push mine.

5.36pm John comes in the bedroom, round 2?  

JOSIE: You said that I over analyse thing, that I'm paranoid!

JOHN: You said that about yourself Josie!

JOSIE: That's because you made me think I was, my head is straight now!

"No coincidence that this latest Josie/JJ 'argument' comes after JJ has been 'play fighting' with Sunshine again this afternoon. You can tell that he really cares what Josie thinks of him, particularly if he feels that she's misunderstanding him because his voice drops by several decibels when he's trying to talk her round."

JOSIE: You keep asking why Dave didn't pick me? And then say it's because I'm intimidating? Everyone nominates, you do the same as everyone else.

JOHN: Do I? Do I?

JOSIE: You do nominate..?

JOHN: Do I?

5.42PM Love Ife "you just need to say what you really want to say!"

"I don't have LF, but their arguing sounds like a venting for their 'attraction' tension. It isn't 'what' they are arguing about that's the issue maybe.....just the fact that their respective pots are bubbling over................................................." (Mintcar JJJAT)

5.47pm 

JOHN: Do you just want to stop talking completely?

JOSIE: Why are you still going ...on and on and on ..and on..

JOHN: I can't ask Dave because it might be going into nominations terrority but I think he didn't pick you because he thinks you're favourite and Caoimhe not soo much.

JOSIE: Why are you saying those things if Dave is your friend?

JOHN: Let's leave it now..

JOSIE: Don't you tell me to leave it. 

John says it's better if he doesn't hang around with her any more. It's better for him not to have a friend who is always trying to work out what is on his brain. 

JOSIE: When you want a laugh and talk come to me but keep the negativity away from me.

 JJ doesn't want his mind probed and worked out.

JOSIE: Am I dumped then? Have you just dumped me on National TV? (John laughs)

Josie asks him again if he has dumped her on live tv. Starting to flirt with him again a bit.

6.04pm Josie hit the nail on the head there IMO. It doesn't matter who nominates who and who is game playing because at the end they will all meet each other and go for a drink. John quickly tries to backtrack, he's just walked out saying he's going to hang around with the others as he doesnt like not being trusted.

6.11pm John is sat outside discussing the Josie fallout with Sunshine. 

IFE: I had a dream about you.

JOHN: Sexual?

IFE: No.

JOHN: Not interested then.

John saying Josie is fave to win so people are scared to disagree with her in case they become unpopular. John telling BB to play what he said to Josie on the big screen. Ben and Sunshine think it'll just blow over, lets hope so but Sunshine is relishing in it.

6.30pm He's walked in and said WTF am I meant to do in here. Getting a teeny weeny bit stressed and said right, let's rock n roll, gets on the floor and starts doing sit ups

6.32pm Sunshine is a little stirrer isn't she! She is going around the house telling everyone about this John and Josie tiff. She'd like it to become a permanent rift. 

6.42pm Josie says she feels out of order. "I feel like I've over-reacted now" etc. You can tell she is now sheepish. He's just said 'if you think I'm sneaky, or deceitful or playing games then don't be friends with me. I'll make it easy for you.' She said nothing. Josie tells John he is negative. He's just said that he can't help it, that's his personality. John says he isn't the person he is in the house on the outside and that the house has brought this out of him. He's said that on the outside world he is like Nathan. Now she is in the diary room, he's gone outside to Sunshine, Ben and Dave.

"Josie is oblivious - and she likes it that way. She potters about not really over thinking anything and just going with the flow imho. Nice state to be in the BB house I think. She doesn't like John going on about it cos she is happy being oblivious. They are actually quite good for each other in that respect - he will help her think a little bit and she hopefully will stop him winding himself into a hole in the ground." (Cornchips)

6.49pm Josie is in the Diary Room. She is only the second housemate to put the tea cosy on her head! #bb11 (twitter)

7.02pm Josie in the Yellow room...picks up the teapot cover, looks in the door and tells BB she doesn't understand and puts it on her head....... and so sent back to the Diary room.  John extremely confused that Josie was in for a lot less time than he was.

7.12pm "Give it time..... she was fondling a pair of shorts a minute ago and John had to point out to her they were his !!! She seemed embarrassed and laughed....but FONDLING them she was..... probably wishing he was in them !!Think of the make up snuggles" ;) (Conchie) 

She's just shouted to him across the garden that she understands him more now and that she didn't realise how much he was suffering.

7.24pm Caoimhe bitching about John James "going to the wrong group for mates." Ife seems very intent on the John and Josie "coupling" not falling apart. She did not want Caoimhe to say anything negative to Josie about John at the pool just there and wants them to patch it up or even get romantic. Dave is explaining to John that the house isn't creating whatever is in the HMs it's just exposing it. John listening attentively. Caoimhe and Josie lying with feet in the pool.  Josie told John she doesn't like talking about such things, so he talks to the others and now she is asking Caoimhe why he is talking to the others and not her. Caoimhe to Josie - "you do have a bond together." Josie and Caoimhe telling each other about their ugly when young stories.

Josie's saying to Caoimhe that John only has 5 numbers in his 'phone at home and he finds it hard to trust people, and now she understands him more, she feels sorry for him she hadn't realised how much he'd been suffering in here not knowing who to trust etc.

She said she thinks he's latched on to her as a mate that he can trust. Caoimhe said "as a love interest?" and she said "no as a mate. John doesn't look at me in that way. and I don't look at him in that way. I do when he's in a football kit."

"I wish Josie would stop saying he doesn't look at me like that. He sees her as a friend. HE DOESN'T YOU SILLY MARE, HE WANTS TO GET IN YOUR KNICKERS!!! " (StacyG JJJAT) 

7.41pm Dave says that John has major trust issues (no sh1t sherlock) and Sunshine explaining to Dave that he is making things worse by answering his questions mysteriously. Dave said he would never have put John's name on the board for possible removal from the house.  

7.50pm Corin telling John that 'sometimes you have to let people in, give them the benefit of the doubt. If they let you down nobody died.' John wants to trust people, John says Corin and Nathan and Steve just chill and let it happen, he wishes he was like that.

7.55pm Noel Gallagher.. I mean Nathan, puts the tea cosy on his head and looks like the Pope!

8.02pm Dave telling John he may need to talk to someone when he gets out!

8.06pm John lying on Josie's back trying to do sit-ups, she tells him that he's heavier than he looks.  

LF Day 22 11 video (Diddididi)

John has boarded Josie's backside and is holding up her legs as though they are the gear sticks to his car. 

JOSIE: Can you just..  ahhh.... OWWW! Your ass is bony! John!!

He's quite comfy where he is and shows no signs of shifting!! John sits back and shoves his feet in front of either side of her face.

JOSIE: (Through giggles) Your ass is bony, John! Your ass is bo.. 

John takes hold of Josie's feet and makes car noises which has Josie laughing harder. "LOL @ John pretending Josie is an airplane/car :P He's a big adorable kid!" (BBCaity JJJAT) 

Josie continues to owwwww and chuckle while John has his child-like fun and messes with her hair. 

JOSIE: I'm not a car! I'm not a car, John!! 

JOHN: Put the headlights on! You gotta lift those headlights!! (Josie's laugh is pure filth, John giggles and revs his engine further)

JOSIE: (Her cursing is beeped out) F**k off! Don't mess with my legs cos there a powerful.. a bit of powerful kit!  

His ride comes to an end and he exits the 'car'  but it is obvious how much they both enjoy each other and their play time ;)  

John keeps slapping Josie's bum! "It doesn't take a behavioural/body language expert to see that these "play fights" have sexual undertones." (TomDaOne JJJAT)

8.17pm  He's just poked her again which seemed to hurt, and she shouted at him - luckily he listened and stopped - then she said 'come on John be nice to me now.' Snuggling up again on Josie's bed and all is right with the world<3

Just look at the way, for instance, JJ and Josie were BLATANTLY flirting in a we-don’t-fancy-each-other-we’re-just-messing-about-but-we-want-each-other kind of way ;)  JJJ nuzzle in bed.

CAOIMHE: Stop pushing his willy, Josie!!

JOSIE: (Wanton sex goddess) Oh, John Jamesssss!! Not there (sexual groans as she wraps an arm over his torso)

JOHN: (reciprocates and pulls Josie closer as he twists his body into hers) You just put your boobs in my face! That's what you want!!

JOSIE: Oh YEAHHHHH, John James!! (John joins in the sex moans while Mario shouts that John has got the wrong hole) Stop it, oooooh yeahhhhh.. whoooooooo!!

JOHN: (Swiftly turns his body away having been too turned on) Stop that! I'm getting a hard on. 

JOSIE: (Her smile shows she's secretly flattered that she aroused him) Oh, sorry.

(taken from this video clip) http://www.mrpaparazzi.com/post/11757/Oh-Just-Get-It-Over-With--Shag-Already.aspx

8.27pm Josie and John saying that Sunshine looks nice...and she then has to go on that it's because John threw her in the pool and she's had to do her hair and make up....

9.43pm Josie intervenes with the Shabby/Ben conversation saying her life can only get better. She wasn't enjoying her life; she felt something was missing. Shabby was happy but wanted more.

9.57pm  Ben's talking about John liking him but also criticises Ben for every thing. Ben says that John is judgemental - it some ways he's smart, some ways he's stupid; he doesn't look at things in the round. Ben: John James is very quick to jump down people's throats over things. *Living Area*

JOHN: She wasn't happy about how she's being perceived...she feels as though she hasn't come across as a very professional person. (Talking about Sunshine)

10.13pm Steve's glass eye is £1400 an eye. Josie says she was going to get a turquoise eye for him when she got out but not now. Mario wonders aloud why everything is so expensive nowadays. Sushine comes in for the bathroom. Josie says Sunshine looks very pretty tonight after she's gone. John makes the BB eye out of beads. Josie telling a charming story about a condom with crap on it being flung at her when she was swimming or something.

10.25pm Eww Mario to Josie: 'Has the mini mouse come out...' (That Mario's word for vagina)  Josie's reading a quote from Mario's t-shirt: 'It's only when I walk that I run into things 7 days a week'. She asks what it means but he has no idea.

10.32pm Josie intends to breast feed, Ife says she won't, she wants to share the responsibility and a friend tells her it's awful. Steve said he's done loads then laughs when he realizes how it sounds, and says he's done lots of feeds with 8 kids. Corin would love to do a photoshoot for Nuts.

10.49pm Playing a drinking game one interesting fact before they have a drink. Steve lost his virginity at 13. Josie lost her virginity when she was 12! Then says it's a joke. Caiomhe says she pisses her pants. Ife says she was born with extra fingers. Ben used to walk around with his choir coat with nothing under it until someone asked him to remove it and he was seen as a perv. Corin got caught shoplifting in Topshop.  Nathan's fact is he had sex at a party in front of everyone....and he doesn't seem slightly embarassed... Josie threw her knickers at a bus driver who tried to overcharge her!

11.06pm Steve tells a story when, in a party house in Germany, he tied a Union Jack around his c**k and ran around the house to impress a German girl he called Madonna that he liked. Josie tells him he's a dirty b*stard! Nathan cuddles into her and she is straight up to go for a smoke.

11.17pm John James doesn't want any affection from Sunshine. Sunshine asks John James where the bracelet is she gave him - he says he took it off because it came loose. John's not feeling well, he slept throughout the drinking game and awakes to Sunshine pawing at him! Ben just said he wants to put one of Josie's boobs in his mouth. She told him to jog on.

SUNSHINE: Josie, music!

JOSIE: What?

SUNSHINE: Josie, music!!

JOSIE: What, what, what?

SUNSHINE: Josie, music!!!

Ah, the eloquence of the English language.

11.23pm, Ben would shave his hair off for 1 million pounds for a task. Josie wouldn't as her Aunt lost her hair with cancer.

11.30pm Shabby has drawn a broken heart on the bathroom glass in either toothpaste or shaving foam

11.41pm Nathan, Corin and Josie still in garden talking about Celebrity Juice. Corin calls Holly, Holly Wallaby!  Caoimhe just got told off for writing on the windows and for her foul mouth .... she has to wipe off what she'd written on the mirror.

Live Day 22

FROM WHATM:

9.24AM  "They've been talking in the bedroom with Shabby and Corin. Josie said he was playing footsie with her under the covers. Teasing each other a bit. Shabby and Corin teasing JJ and his repeated, "Jose, Jose, Jose!"

10.03am  "Nathan complaining about noise in the bedroom last night. Although Shabby ran in and tried to spray John with shaving cream it seems that John's whispers are too noisy for Nathan. More of a telling off from Nathan then a row really. John then moans to Josie about Nathan's comments!"

10.33am "Josie says to Mario she fancies John in his football kit but not otherwise."

11.09am "Josie comments that she used to be the angriest person in Bristol and the only person she was hurting was herself so now no longer gets angry. And that throwing hissy fits knackers you out!"

11.24am "Josie tells John that when he's in a football kit he turns into a completely different person, saying he's like a different person, cool as a cucumber. He asks her why she doesn't date a real footballer. She says she doesn't want a real one.  

JOHN: You want a fake one?

JOSIE: Yeah a John James one! (giggles)

John is lying with his arms up behind his head on Josie's chest. She had her hand stroking the inside of his upper arm...he then made a slight movement of that arm and she stopped stroking and slowly moved her hand away."

11:27 "Josie is teasing John by saying he was actually born a woman." 

11.40am "Mario tells John jokingly that he's going to start flirting with him instead of Ben. Mario says it is his fault, not Ben's; John disagrees. He says Ben shouldn't flirt with Mario if he doesn't feel anything for him. John saying that if he was really pushed he could do cheese on toast.  Josie said that John was hardly whispering last night, he takes that as he was being really loud."

11.47am "John quizzes Josie about why she thinks she has put on weight. He is the only one who is losing weight. Josie says he must have a very high metabolism and if she ate as much McD's as him (SC) John says he is really hungry all the time. Josie interrupts that he looks like some woman. He says "A girl!!??"Apparently he is her twin, just like her friend Mia. John not impressed."

11.54am "JJJ and and Mario discussing leaving the house and seeing what other people have said in the diary room.  John reckons Ben's hair is just bed hair. Josie wants to know what attracts Mario to Ben....we don't get to hear!  Interesting that both Mario and John said that Ben left the sexuality question unanswered on his application form. John reckons BB assumed Ben was bi-sexual and Mario agreed. They're totally cuddled up in bed talking to Mario right now. Cute! Josie lying on John's chest."

12.06pm "John, Josie and Mario talking about Govan's eviction and how shocked they all were. John said Govan was without doubt the funniest guy in the House, but maybe the public didn't get to see that aspect of him. John speculates that maybe he was voted out because Govan wanted to go home. Mario says the public would have kept him in just to make him more miserable."

"I think you have to think about what you would do in that situation, if I were in there I would be doing exactly what Josie is doing flirting with him and then denying that I fancy him to everyone else, because who wants to get openly rejected on tv if he doesn't feel the same.Wouldn't most people be the same? Someone needs to light a fire under John James so that he will give her an absolute no doubt sign he is interested in her romantically because I don't ever think that Jose will make the first move under any circumstances!" (hrdearest JJJAT)

12.16pm Mario is asking Sunshine why she doesn't want to go out with John. She says "Why doesn't he want to go out with me? Because he said." 

DAVE (to Sunshine): John said that lipstick is terrible!

12.27pm DAVE: Look at them precious lips their the best lips in the world their so sweet. 

Dave announces that if his wife was wearing that colour of lipstick then he wouldn't let her kiss him. Dave is putting a jewellery choker around Sunshine's neck. She's making a big deal of pretending it's too tight and she can't breathe. Dave tells her she's been too dramatic. Once the choker is on, she announces it is too loose and it gets tightened again. Dave wants her to remove the black lipstick.

12.41pm Ben, John and Josie debate the morality of stoning as punishment. Sunshine says she has less chance of knowing what's going on because she's not seeing what the public are seeing. She suggests they all get up and do something anything that doesn't involve lying down....she is not met with any enthusiasm. She gets up anyway. Josie says to SS "Oh you look....you're going for that look!"

12.51pm "John loves Greece and list everything he loves about it such as the little villages and beaches. He spent 3 weeks there after traveling around Europe. But isn't a fan of museums! Ife talks to Josie about Sunshine looking like Blossom...more than Lady Gaga."

E4 Live afternoon feed - Ben complains that he takes ages to fall asleep because of people yakking! Through the windows to the garden, Ife and Sunshine can be seen singing and dancing like little girls singing into their hairbrushes. BB declined from allowing the audience to watch as they didn't think it would be something humans would enjoy! :D

Ben tries not to sleep in the day but lies on his bed out of boredom which means he's not tired at night 'and so it's a vicious circle, isn't it?' Dave carries a pan of water into the bathroom, Ben follows him explaining he's really pleased he's got to know Nathan a bit. Ben actually thinks Nathan is one of the most interesting people there! 

DAVE: He is! He's a cool guy! 

Ben wants to use fabric conditioner on their laundry this time to make it smell nice; he congratulates Dave because Dave has already put some in! Ben pops to use the loo but pledges to help when he comes back. He hopes he's not suffocating Dave but knows he clings to him but Dave's one of the few people there Ben totally relates to.

Dave's glad his mate is here and believes it would be difficult for him and the Baron without Ben being around. Ben is fond of the Baron too but is particularly close to Dave and finds it interesting that he's getting along with most people. 

BEN: Nathan and I now sorta like each other, so that's great!

It's the boredom thing that is worse than ever for Ben and he's not saying that to whinge because he's 'not in a whingey mood!' He wishes BB would do a quiz or something. For Dave, his wife and kids are his life.. so to be in there and be bored stupid then opens up a door for him to start thinking about them. The last week or so he's been pretty good with regards to this but he does miss them.

Ben arranges to see Dave back there in about 3 minutes so he can finally go perform his ablutions! There is a close up of the Tree of Temptation chest of drawers in the bathroom indicating an impending speech. Dave wrings out socks while waiting on his wing man.

Sunshine publicises the 'paradigm-shifting' news that she only has the underwear she put on in the suitcase task! Josie asks 'have you got a bra on?' the answer to which you'll be overjoyed to learn is a yes!! Apparently it is a nude one which Josie thinks is wicked; Ife thanks her for the microphone. 

John asks Sunshine if she's going to (do something) or not but Sunshine doesn't want criticism. Corin suggests Sunshine makes a song up. OH MY SWEET BIRD OF PARADISE!! When Sunshine is shown on screen you'd be forgiven for thinking it was Myra Hindley turned Goth! Or Marilyn Manson as Steve had compared her appearance to earlier in the day.  

Josie whispers to John for him not to give Sunshine any criticism.

JOHN: I can promise no criticism, I can't promise..

During the break, the Tree told Ben to organise an arm wrestling competition and that he must beat at least 1 girl! The T of T wants Ben to grow a pair and use street slang. Ben leaves the bathroom and engages Nathan with his good idea!

BEN: It's not really my cup of tea, but a thought's just come into my head.. what about doing something like an arm wrestling competition? 

Nathan's reply is SC but he seems more intent in borrowing a nail file from 'Caoimhe darlin!' Ife wants to start up a game of Charades but Ben won't join in because he has to help Dave with the washing. He says that he will watch while he waits for Dave. For being such an intelligent man, Ben's not a very bright boy is he? He begins pulling at his hair haplessly. 

Ife sets the terms of the game, if she wins against Mario she wants him to fold up all her clothes and make her toast whenever she wants it throughout the day. She snaps at Mario for being really childish!  

Ben returns to bed seemingly already given up on the tree task. Caoimhe is catching a cat nap but Ben is pensively preoccupied with the Tree's threats. 

Johnny joins Ben in the bedroom asking what he's doing in there. Ben squints that he just felt like a bit of time out as there's nothing really going on that he wanted to do. Come on Ben, time's-a-wastin' for the task but no, no just sit there and grouse about Mario being a bit funny with you to John! 

JOHN: Oh really? Why?

Ben doesn't know but goes on that sometimes Mario talks about things he's not really interested in like UFO's, he forgets what he's talking about! John asks if Mario had actually said this. He hadn't but it's just a feeling Ben gets; he accepts that he should make more of an effort over things he's not interested in. He relates to John how earlier he and Mario had been talking about notorious dictators, Ben had brought up an African tyrant (John is yawning already) who made himself an Emperor and had a big coronation, inviting all the World leaders. (SC)

Mario had said that the dictator should burn in hell but Ben isn't as emotive about that sort of thing as Mario and Josie. He thinks Mario thought that when the 2 of them first came in, they were very similar in a lot of ways. But Ben's truth is that no one's that similar to anyone!

Ben adores Mario and applauds him for being a loyal friend to him since Day 1. 

BEN: You've never ever heard me say anything but lovely things about him, I absolutely love Mario!  

But he thinks maybe what it is, is that Mario likes him in a way that Ben doesn't like him back. John doesn't think this is Ben's fault because Ben has his breaking point. John feels that if he'd said the same thing to Mario, he probably wouldn't have taken as much offence because (SC) John continues that Mario has maybe been more sensitive as Ben doesn't say things like that very often. 

JOHN: But overall, I don't think it was the worst thing in the world to say!

So Ben doesn't understand why Mario is then so miffed with him. John does think that what Ben said could be partly true (that Mario does have feelings for him) and how Mario may like to believe he has more in common with Ben than he actually does because 'he does maybe like you in a way you don't like him back!'

John assures that Mario hasn't honestly said anything. Ben knows Mario would never bitch about anyone but seeks John's advice because he can see in Mario's eyes that he's really hurt. John just thinks that Mario really likes Ben and he guesses that it's a little bit frustrating for him. This is the John, I know and love .. that thoughtful young man who is kind and considerate of feelings.. he talks a lot of sense and is at his best in moments like this..A true blue sweetie :) But John can't confirm that because he's never been in that position really, he's never felt attracted to a girl that (SC) 

JOHN: Like I would only sorta feel that way about a girl.. or if I felt the feeling was mutual and then I would get the.. like you can normally work it out in a couple of days if (SC) and your feelings grow..


"OMG JJ's just admitted to Ben he's never been in a situation like Mario's and Ben's where he finds someone attractive and they don't like them back, and he can usually tell in a couple of days if someone likes him and then the feelings grow from there. It seems maybe his feelings for Josie are just platonic as he thinks she doesn't like him so he hasn't let himself feel like that about her." (Sofette JJJAT)

"I take it all back, its so up and down! In JJ analysing his flirting behaviour with Ben he said he's conscious of not behaving too touchy-feely with SS as he doesn't fancy her and doesn't want to lead her on and he was the same with Rachel and thats why he totally backed off from her as he could tell she was 'becoming a fan'. Conclusion: as he's not holding back on touching and flirting with josie by his own standards he must want to test how things will develop with her." (Sofette) (This must have been during the break)

Ben is really fond of Mario in a platonic way although he likes him a lot. He thinks John is right; Ben's only been lucky enough once or twice in his life to have friends that he's really had lots in common with. But Mario has kept repeating the last day or so that maybe they don't have that much in common .. and that he may not know Ben that well. 

JOHN: Well me and you don't have that much in common.. we do have common things but there's a lot of things about us that are completely different! It doesn't mean you can't.. 

 Ben interrupts to tell him something interesting about the house in general, he feels he's had a good week as he survived eviction so the public can't have hated him that much! He hasn't really fought with anyone except his little tiff with John and in many ways has had a much easier week than last week. John mm-hm's along as Ben gets to the 'interesting' part that he's becoming more liked but with his good friends - John and Mario (apart from Dave) he feels things are now more distant. Ben is interested in John's view and wonders if it is something he's doing wrong. 

John breaks it down that it's not something Ben is doing wrong, but more that as time passes people are finding out more and more about each other and are connecting more as a group. 

JOHN: Like a week ago, I don't even think Mario was talking to Ife at all! Now look at 'em! They're sleeping in the same bed, they're with each other all the time!

John thinks the dynamics can change just like that. Quick flick to Mario and his new bezzie mate Ife. John answers that he and Josie were pretty close before but now that Govan has gone 'me and Jose hang around each other a lot more.. like even more now! Do you know what I mean? Like we have chats at midnight and that now.. I guess we were doing that before but I think everyone sorta wants to..'

John thinks that this is where Ben will struggle because he's not a group person, he likes 'this sort of stuff and I don't mind it every now and then..'

BEN: You like it with Josie! 

JOHN: Well, I don't mind it with anyone.. just some people just talk and I'm like (switches off) can't even be bo..(laughs) Do you know what I mean? Whereas there's some people that I don't talk to at all..

Ben isn't saying this to flatter John (because he doesn't think he deserves to be flattered) BUT he thinks John has connected with pretty much everyone now, with the exception of Caoimhe and Ife in a big way. 

JOHN: Um.. I haven't connected a whole heap with Corin, but she's a lovely person. You've connected with her on a total different level to what I have.. I'm just.. I just talk to her (SC) 

John doesn't find it difficult he just doesn't think that he and Corin have that because she's older. Ben makes the point that John has connected with Steve and he's 16/17 years older than John. John agrees that he connected with Steve right from the very beginning; he's always liked people like Steve that are very upfront. He likes the way Steve's been in the house 'he's very reserved, he's very black and white.. I've always liked people like that!'  

John returns to the thinking that maybe Mario thought he and Ben had more in common. Ben had considered himself, John and Mario to have been a trio at the start. Dave enters, so John brings him into the conversation, demonstrating that even he is talking to everyone now but had struggled at the start. 

JOHN: Eventually, as time goes on we're gonna connect more as a group.. rather than these divisions. Especially with the 2 people that have gone - Rachael and Govan! They were part.. you had your smoking group and your non-smoking group, now that 2 smokers have gone, the non-smoking group are starting to sort of feel as though there might be a little .. like they might be able to talk to the smokers a bit more because their group's becoming smaller. 

Ben thinks this is true but where he slightly disagrees and Dave can pipe up, if he doesn't want to be tarred with Ben's brush.. he thinks that people like John (SC) He feels that he and Dave have gone the other way, having had more people they spoke to on a regular basis to before. He really feels that the only person who would always want to talk to him is Dave. 

What's made it difficult for Dave is knowing that every week certain people would rather he goesm than other people around them and that then isolates him from those people. He's sure he knows who those people are so now he just connects with the people he wants to. These are the people he wants to invest in and spend time with, the others he realises there is a disconnection there but he might be there 13 weeks with them. 

He finds it sad as it's certainly not what he wants! He thinks it is down to who he is, the opinions he's brought and the quirkiness has almost isolated him from these people when it didn't need to. 

At the same time John thinks it's very hard because you don't want to go around talking to everybody because then it looks like you're being false. This is the problem John feels he has to deal with, he knows himself that he's not and he guesses that's all that matters. 

JOHN: At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what people think out there, it doesn't matter what people think in here. You know what you've done, what you've said, how you are as a person.. your friends, your close friends will know.. and that's.. and really that's all that really matters, as long as you're true to yourself.. eventually people, like do you know what I mean? (shrugs) 

Ben broods that he thinks John is right but where he is finding it difficult (but takes his hat off to John who has done really well) is that John has gone from being at times a slightly isolated, controversial figure to a now mainstream, universally liked person who engages with everyone. 

But he thinks he and Dave have gone from having 5 or 6 friends who they all got on with.. Dave still considers that he has and would include the 2 of them, Baron, Sunshine and Mario as people who really like him and he likes them. These are the people he would ring fence if their names were on the board. 

Again this isn't a criticism of John it is just the way things go, but Ben has noted that John now does spend most of his time with Josie. Which he can understand and knows he is doing it a bit for Josie as well, as she's sad over Govan and that John is too 'and that's really bonded you two together which is great!' 

Holy cannoli, Ben can't stop harping on about how he and John once had lots of laughs and general discussions together.. but that's not really there anymore. He hopes John's feelings haven't changed towards him, it's just he's occupied in a different way now. Mario comes inside so Dave asks him to help wring out the washing in the garden. 

John has seen in previous series how HM's can be very close with certain people at the beginning and absolutely haaaaaate them by the end! He gets Mario to back him up on this that it happens quite a lot. 

JOHN: You've gotta remember we've only been here for 3 weeks, you can't get to know everyone in 3 weeks! And it's really that simple.

 John asks Mars if he is alright before he leaves the room, Mario mumbles that he's cool. But Ben bleats that Mario can't even look him in the eye - get it together man! John credits Ben on being a very good talker who does make sense. But tells him if he were him, he would just sit down and talk to him, how Ben's talking to him because they haven't got a lot of time in there. 

JOHN: If you don't fancy him in that way.. I don't know if you've had that chat with him.. just maybe .. just tell him everything you've just told me. Just say 'look, um I don't mean to flirt with you or or whatever or um.. ' just get his opinion.. 

Ben's problem is that this could be misconstrued as arrogance as he's assuming this is the issue. John probes that there is a fine line and he'd thought Ben came in originally as bi-sexual.. and he's pretty sure that's what everybody else thought as well. But now he doesn't think Ben is! 

He likens his mucking around relationship with Mario but that Mario knows John is straight. Ben accepts this but the thing that is so ridiculous to him, is that it has nothing to do with gay/straight/bisexuality! He admits he had the hots for Rachael but would never presume she fancied him back. John understands and agrees this is right. 

Ben still ruminates that this could lie at the root of some of the problems. He's also been stewing over Mario teasing him affectionately that he's always having to get Ben out of trouble. Ben could have got offended by these comments about cleaning up the scrapes because it is actually a bit patronising! 

BEN: It's like 'I'm Mr Easygoing, popular - you're a nightmare who's always squabbling with people! I have to go round and sort out your problems!' 

When on the whole he hasn't been fighting with people, Shabby and Sunshine aside. He muses that Mario likes the idea that he is some sort of Ambassador, so then when he doesn't need to be he feels surplus to requirements. 

JOHN: What do you mean, ambassador?

Ben then concedes that the previous week when he HAD been getting into loads of scrapes, Mario had to go around the house representing him, as you would for a friend. (SC) Number 1 - Ben never asked Mario to do that. Number 2 - He is honoured and grateful that he did do that. His whole point is that none of them are exactly what they think they are. He uses John boiling over more than he does usually as an example. 

Ben's friends had told him he'd be fine in the house as he gets on with every sort of people. Mario comes back in and John asks if he's okay but he's bored as hell. Ben speaks up and asks if he's annoyed him today 'you might as well tell me what I've done, so I don't speculate!'

Mario lays down in Josie's bed; John is concerned that he is intruding and checks if Mario wants him to leave. Mario doesn't, Ben takes the chance to beg his pardon for whatever he has done that he never intended to do. Mario doesn't see why Ben assumes he has done something. 

BEN: Shabby you're dressed as if you're going on a Janis Joplin record! That's a compliment, I imagine you'd like Janis Joplin.

She guesses but not hugely as she rummages through a bin liner to spray under her pits with some deodorant. Shabby doesn't think she was very stable yesterday; Ben nods appreciatively that he doesn't think any of them are any day! As she wanders around in her bra, Ben jokes that she's giving the license-fee viewers something for their money!

After about 30 odd minutes since receiving his task, he tries to throw out the arm wrestling idea again. Shabby dismisses this as a terrible, terrible idea and resignation saps every ounce of strength from Ben's body! (SC)

Ben walks over to talk to Mario pleading to be told what he has done. Mario monkeyshines that he just doesn't like Ben anymore before telling Ben not to be ridiculous! (SC) Ben wants to hear why he's upset him and to say that he never would intentionally do so. Mario keeps repeating that it isn't Ben but Ben continues to ask what it was 'I'm a bit thoughtless sometimes, aren't I?'  

Mario laughs that Ben is oblivious to everything in his face as well. (SC) Although Ben keeps saying he's not stupid, Mario is starting to think he really is because he has misread this situation. He insists that Ben stop stressing as he is one of his favourite people in there. 

Dave asks if Ben noticed that he did all the washing and Mario wrang it all out and that Ben didn't help at all! He makes his excuses to his old chum that he was stressing with John that he was worried Mario hated him. Mario is dumbfounded that Ben would believe that as he doesn't even dislike anyone in the house, let alone hate them!

Ben doesn't understand why the water tastes nice when it is cool but once its warmed up, tastes like something out of the local swimming baths. He then despairs that he's never called into the Diary room and how he recognised that Mario had cleaned up after him last week. He describes everything as hunky dory as he's survived eviction but feels empty of stimulation and is really struggling without his recreational needs. 

He misses his friends, his freedom, his music more than anything! Mario impedes Ben's self-pitying monologue by telling him his eyes are two different shades of blue, which Ben never knew. Dave's black pirate t-shirt has disappeared and Mario helps him try to locate it from bed; Ben crawls into bed beside Mario.

Ben wants to go into the Diary room but they never bl**dy let him in but Mario jogs his memory that BB called him in at 2am. Ben back talks that it was only to get his views on why he wasn't evicted. As Shabby passes by he um.. 'compliments' her for looking like a young Charlie Chaplin even without her hat. 

SHABBY: Is it the hair?

He says it is a little bit but she has also done her eye make up differently, which he likes as it suits her. She thanks Benjaminge. 

In the garden Josie tells John off for hurting her some how (seems like he could have prodded her in the stomach with his foot) 'John James, I've just had beans on toast!! Why? Why??' 

John jokes that Sunshine must have cobwebs up .. there :P She retorts with a snappy comeback that he's more likely to have cobwebs than her as he showers less!! John answers back that he showers every day but Sunshine gives him lip that he doesn't shower as well as she does. He is less than impressed with her hygiene humour as he washes 3 times a day back home. 

Sunshine is making the usual spectacle of herself, sat next to John in her Myra Hindley-esque wig, a lipstick shade that makes her lips look anything but kissable and a goth diamante choker that the viewers probably hoped would actually choke her!! :D (SC) 

Shabby has tied her hair with a pretty red bow and has a smile that the first couple of days there, Caoimhe had called her 'Shavvy' thinking the name was Spanish. Apparently they've all been pronouncing Caoimhe's name wrong; Ife asserts that she's never corrected them as she'd told them it was like 'diva with a K!'  (SC)

Ife lies on her towel and works out with some unenthusiastic-looking sit ups.. which are more head ups, as she just lifts her head up and back. Talk then turns to how HM's say Josie's name, most pronounce it as Jos-C but Josie imitates her favourite is Nathan's Northern 'Jose-ayyyyy!!' (Jose rhymes with hose and rose) He raises the monobrow at her! 

JOSIE: I was named after a Jack Russell!

Ife snickers that she was named after a dog; her brother Charlie was also named after a dog they had. Her brother Harry was named after their Mum's first horse and Ruby was named after another one of their horses. Shabby is glad Josie's Mum does that as she very much believes that pets should have real, human names. Ife's dogs also have human names - Sophie and Phoebe. 

Josie's first dog was a Doberman called Tanya. Shabby's cats are called Sophie and Bonny but Bonny is not very bonny 'she's a hideous little creature!' Shabby loves her for her ugliness :D (SC) In bed, Ben is stressing his belief to Mario that is rare to meet someone that adores you.. or for the person you adore to adore you back 'it doesn't often happen!'  Awww John and Josie had that for a little while.. they really did adore each other in BB :( Ben tells Dave he is lucky with Donna. 

Dave is fully satisfied with his wife and doesn't lust after anyone else or need anyone else! Mini cut back to those in the garden cooing over their cats. Nathan puts his in socks and shoes - like Puss in boots! :D Josie abruptly cuts in that she was just thinking about all the people who have been horrible to her. Shabby asks who they are and Josie comments that there have only been about 3! 

Ben makes a joke about John giving him a hard time and John replies with a Josie-ism 'who do you think you are??' (SC) Mario decides the Pink Panther music will play for Ben on his eviction night. John thinks it will be funny if they show all the things Ben has taken that they don't know about! Ben thinks it will be more interesting to see who has stolen things they wouldn't suspect, as he's already been outed as a minor thief!

JOHN: (mopping up his bread in his bowl of spaghetti) They seriously went through about 5 litres of milk and I didn't drink a drop of it!! I didn't even know, I went to get a glass of milk and it's all gone!

John seriously can't believe how much milk the house goes through as he hadn't had any, not even for tea! This is something Ben pleads not guilty to as he doesn't like drinking milk on its own and will only do so for variation. Mario laughs at who would push Ben to drink milk; Ben quips 'my dark side, my inner soul!' Before telling them something he does like which is a brand of Swiss drinking chocolate. 

BEN: (To Mario) You're being a b*tch today!!

JOHN: He's turning into me! I didn't even have to say anything; Mario's doing it all for me!

 Mario moans that he's not and will be devastated when Ben goes! Dave asks if John has seen his black T-shirt with the pirate skull and cross bones on it. John knows the one 'with the silver spots on it?' but seriously hasn't seen it; Dave had only worn it once in the house before losing it. (SC) John mentally battens down the hatches as Sunshine stalks through the bedroom 'here, she comes!' 

SUNSHINE: (Screeches) Got me back for that one, Mr-I'm-gonna-jump-ON-the-table-grab-you-furiously-rub-your-eye-makeup-out-put-it-all-over-your-face and then I'm gonna squeeze it while you're lying on the ground all over you!! I think you've done more than I have!

JOHN: Yeah, well I was just sitting there eating my lunch and you had to throw the sponge at me!

Sunshine squeals that he was standing by the dishes! Ah, so that makes it alright then?? Dave demands that she gets the ridiculous black lipstick off her face as she looks like the Joker off Batman. Ben likes it as it turns him on.  

JOHN: (Appalled) Really?!! That's what I said.. you look the cross between the Joker and Marilyn Manson! (SC)

John asks what Charades is and then remembers it is a game that someone had been trying to explain to him. 

JOHN: Have you got a butler, Ben?

Ben answers with a vehement 'no!'; Dave and Mario tease Ben about Dave doing all his washing! Steve then asks whether he has staff at his Mother's house, again the reply is negative. Ben's always looked after himself but concedes that his family have always had someone who have helped them out a bit.. but that's all! 

John slurps up the remains in his bowl like he's chugging back a drink. Sunshine queries if Ben washes his own clothes and he says 'sort of' as he washes them but then 'the woman irons them!' 

JOHN: I never iron my clothes! (Mama Parton/Josie did it for him!) 

Steve chastises Ben for being a lazy boy but Ben resents this; he acknowledges that he is really slow but credits himself on being a good cleaner. At home he even goes round with newspapers and vinegar to clean all the mirrors! 'I like polishing things!' 

JOHN: (horrified) Don't tell me you're actually re-applying that ridiculous look? 

Steve laughs that John had helped destroy it. Which was John's way of hinting for Sunshine to take it off! John gets under the covers of his single bed and grins that he can't believe she's re-applying it!  

DAVE: Even Corin told her it looked terrible and she's still putting it on!! (SC)

Ben desires to know if he and Corin are going to play this Coronation Street game later, in the style of charades. Corin feels that the day is dragging as it is only half two (in the afternoon) John assesses that it doesn't look like they are going to get a task (as it is so late in the day) and that their shopping one may last for 3 days. John was wondering if BB were going to give them another shopping budget today because BB had already given them shopping. Sunshine whines that John had to get her bad eye too!

JOHN: I love the way you don't think things through! She sat there, went to throw the sponge at me and I said 'think about it!' and she still threw it at me anyway!! And then when I throw it back, you have a cry! 

SUNSHINE: I threw the sponge lightly as a joke.

JOHN: My face was covered!

CORIN: If you can't take it, don't give it.

2.36pm "JJ just pushed SS out of bed when she tried to get in the single with him!" (Sofette)

2.41pm "John asks Sunshine if she's happy/ok. Sunshine says she's not talking to John and he's not in her good books today, and that she's not happy. John retorts that he wouldn't be happy with that lippy on his face!"

2.53pm "Dave snogs the lippie off of Sunshine's lips....she is not happy and recommends that no one ever does that again...DAVE! He has got the lippie on himself now. She shouts at be to get off and asks for Steve to tell him to get off her, get him with the stick!There is a pile on and Steve tells Sunshine to get out quick and run..John lifting Sunshine up over his shoulder and throwing her down on the bed again after trying to make her getaway. John ruffling/ticking Sunshine's head and hair.. Sunshine's head inbetween Dave's legs!" (WHATM)

3.04pm  "It helps to remember they're just people. They're going to be at turns contradictory and capricious, they'll say things that could mean a little or a lot, they'll get tangled up and make mistakes and can thrill each other and hurt each other but that's what makes them people. People rarely shock me but every so often they manage to surprise me and these two so far have managed to do just that. We're all just people and we rarely say exactly what we mean or wish to say, we protect ourselves and wander in the darkness and every so often we take a chance and follow a light. Who among us is perfect in these situations? Nobody has a textbook on life...we learn on the job." (theirishgirl JJJAT)

3.20pm  "Shabby questioning what Josie and John talk about in bed at night, Josie says they just snuggle. Shabby says she's jealous she would like to snuggle. 

JOSIE: I'll lend you John James for a snuggle he's great!

John says he's not some sort of rag doll you can throw around! John asks Shabby if she thinks Sunshine(?) is attractive! Someone asked if John ever snuggled with Sunshine and he said no, Steve said he wants to though - and John didn't say anything. Josie says Sunshine looks like Edward Scissorhands today."

3.29pm "Ben and Corin do a Corrie re-enactment of Hayley and Roy! Dave thinks he's been kept in because he's good at the tasks. Sunshine thinks people prefer to watch those who fail the tasks. Ben saying John and Josie have almost a secret language...." (WHATM)

15:34 John James just poured a bottle of water bottle of Sunshine then pushed her in the pool #BB11(Twitter)

3.44pm  "John and Josie are doing that animal mating ritual of sniffing each other it's only a matter of time before they bite each other and get it on. He was looking at her roots, and then lay with his legs across her, while she played with his shorts and linking his arm." (WHATM)

3.47pm  "OK. Regroup. Fact: J likes JJ - why all the talk of him being out of her league otherwise?

Fact: JJ likes J - why the threatening to leave when they fought (feels like years ago), snuggles, and recent increase in boob mentions?

I think they're almost getting too comfortable with each other - almost slipping into "definitely just friends" territory. BB needs to shake it up a little. Set an all-nighter task. Throw an amazing party - something, anything to snap them out of the rut. Come on BB - get your cupid on! (please)" (Vaun JJJAT)

"Josie and JJ are both young, good-looking, plagued with insecurities - and bored. There are slim pickings when it comes to romantic possibilties with the rest of the HMs and so they are naturally gravitating to each other....there's an attraction there, for sure - but I swing backwards and forwards in terms of how I interpret what's going on. One minute I think they've really fallen for each other and are just circling each other before going in for the kill; the next minute I think they're simply passing the time of day engaging in harmless banter and playfighting that allows them to feel wanted - and thus better about themselves - but without feeling any of the normal pain or fear that goes along with actually allowing yourself to fall for someone - if you'll pardon the analogy,it's a bit like the sanitised-for-television (ie. without the sex) version of a one night stand, albeit with someone you really like.

I would really like them to get it together - but because of their personalities - and the environment they're in - I don't think we're ever going to see any outright declarations unless something happens to get them both off guard and forces them out of their comfort zones - this could be something as simple as a task, a row between them or one of them having a really low day and lowering their defences...or even some new HMs coming in and shaking up the dynamics.

My fear is that all this playfighting, squeeworthy though it is, will eventually just get really tiresome for everyone in there, including JJJ themselves, and unless things move to another level in the not too distant future it will just eventually fizzle out - and much as I am loving watching them I must admit that I'm starting to find it just the teensiest wee bit tiresome myself (if she uses that 'football kit' line one more time I think I may have to go into the back bedroom and have a scream)" (Siobhan JJJAT)

3.55pm Sunshine admits that he looks good in shorts - but then adds that fortunately, she was given ears! Sunshine has decided to stay in the pool with her clothes on.

JOHN: No wonder you don't have any friends. (to sunny)

SHABBY: I'm your friend.

4pm  "I concur they've kind of got a routine now and a catalyst could be needed to take to them to another level if that's what they want. It's still them in control though. JJ doesn't drink a lot because I believe he wishes to stay in control...both of his temper and his feelings. It may take time for him to loosen up.

I'm definitely interested to see how the dynamics change when they bring in the two new mooted HMs. I'm betting on one girl and one guy. If they're both bisexual it could stir things up for both Shabby and Mario too as well as the other single HMs like Nathan, Ben, JJ, Josie and SS. If and it's a big if any of the respective parties are attracted to each other...fireworks. But I think it would be the easiest way for BB to stir things up. That said I don't think either of them would just 'drop' the other, JJ's said as much to Josie but it might make them up their game a little if challenged." (theirishgirl)